Frankie played a MAJOR part in our 7 game winning run lat season, he tore up defences for us.

Anyone disagree.

If he's cutting corners in training it's irrelevant, we need to maintain standards or this behaviour could spread and then we would be in trouble - we don't have the technical skills in the squad to allow players not to give 100%

Im not so sure on Agar.... for me, the obvious explanation here is that money is tight so we've offloaded Walshaw and Mariano, for which we're getting their wages paid, which in turn free'd up money to bring Taulima Tautai in immediately as a pose to waiting until the end of the season. It suggests to me that we've seen great value in TT and we've worked a deal accordingly.....and if we had to 'plead' with Fev to let Walshaw play, this was simply because we were injury ravaged last week.

I really dont see what all the fuss is about.

The whole thing with Mariano as really upset me ! He is clearly a talented player more talent than Trout, Mellars and Molloy. Walshaw has potential and did very well against Wigan. We have messed around with Trout, Mellars and Molloy when we should have put our arm around Mariano talked to him man to man give him some TLC. Monitor him in the first team and not mess around with the others apart from Walshaw as I like him. The situation with MAriano stinks sounds like a cock up with the paperwork. Instead of school-ing him trying to improve his attitude we have just laid waste unfortunatly. 7 match win streak with this guy in the side. Losses to KR, Cas etc when we have messed around.

Some man to man TLC? What ya sayin' like?

Amazing as this may sound, we have lost games with him playing as well.
I still felt he went missing in the "big 7 "games at times.

He stikes me as being like the "big lad" in the school team.
He runs through gaps when they are there and looks (and is) great doing it, but when you step up a level you need someone with all round sklills. He has holes in his all round skills he needs to fix.

I've said before for me Mariano had the perfect chance to lay down a marker in the cup game against Hemel and failed to take it.
Yes, he scored a great try, barging through their fullback and going over but then he spent 20 minutes blowing out of his a$$.
Bearing in mind the opposition he should have been an absolute standout but was overshadowed for me by the youngsters who came in eg Shulver.

We are told that the reason he got dropped in the first place was due to "cutting corners", his lack of fitness in that game when given the perfect chance to shine would suggest to me that that statement may not be far off the mark.
I'm not saying he's not talented but if you believed what NGB4C thinks then you'd think he was an NRL standard 2nd rower - to me I'm afraid he's not.

Having said all of that I'd have him back if his attitude was right.

If you run the right lines you can create you're own gap, if you get it wrong you get flattened


Agar spoke very highly of Franks end of season form, maybe Agars wrong

I don't disagree with what you say about his skills and particularly his running lines. He is probably the best we have at that. It's just that he needs to do the other things to at least average level to make it still valuable to us.
I would love him to be back in the team and performing well, I just don't agree he is being treated as unfairly as you and NGB4C seem to do as I think there are many reasons to not put him in too.

The only reason he's not in just at the moment is because Fev are in control of the player.
Who's fault this is isn't too clear but, both the player and Wakefield would like him turning out in red, white and blue.

How do you know he does want to turn out the in RW&B?

Correct and while I don't think he's perfect, I have seen less effort from other players.
players that are first choice it would seem.

Mariano better than trout, Mellars and molly end of. Agar wasted the clubs money getting Molly we have tons of second rowers Agar in wrong lets send him to BATLEY on loan. my point we all make mistakes. Mariano quality.

What a waste of debate over at best an average player.