Our ground MAY be crap,but, you would not be forced into, by brain dead stewards who seemed hell bent on causing a riot, an area of the ground(score board end) where you could see nothing of either try line or experience anything of the so called "Atmosphere". This happened to us LAST season and I swear I and a lot of others will never set foot in the STADIUM? again.

i need a drink..i agree with gaslight!

How ironic a fan of club who have massive debts educate us on money!

You was forced into the ground ?. The score board end is the South stand and i agree the view is poor, however it is not much better stood at the bottom of the "away" end behind the sticks at your ground.
Our atmosphere is awesome when the East stand are in full voice look at Leeds last week and Bradford this week when we were on sky it was a brilliant atmosphere , your fans are way to quiet.

I believe that you and Castleford will not have your own grounds due to finances , you can't really warrant two new stadiums so close to each other.
I think you will ground share and once the dust has settled the RFL will force a merger between you both and they will bring in an extra club from the NL , the pundits are already hinting at it now .

Both Hull clubs are known for their fantastic away support and we generate a lot of money for other clubs , your away support is embarrassing to be honest but you are not alone .

Hull has the only true derby in SL . It must be frustrating for your fans regarding the stadium news but i think it is best for you if you do ground share and merge it seems the way forward for you , enjoy the rest of the season.

some places only have a village idiot, hull is large enough it would appear to hire you.

Tell you what FC and HKR share and then merge, we'll wait and see if its a success and then we might think about it (not)!

That would never happen Tim Wilby tried that trick years ago.
We had the opportunity to play at the KC stadium as it is a Council owned stadium but we declined the offer , we didn't want to play in West Hull !!.
We had a choice it appears you may not have a choice , you have had several warning from the RFL about your ground and broken promises over the years.

i heard today, from a reliable source, that HKR are being told to improve their pitch, ground, stewarding, access facilities, parking, match day environment, and local area in time for the 2012 franchises, if not KC time, until such time as a viable east hull provides a for a family friendly 21st century stadium for both home and away fans.

glass houses and stones old bean

a reliable source

, Access facilities ? the roads around the ground have just been widened and new traffic measures put in place , our pitch is fine , we are improving our ground the plans have been finalised, parking is fine we have a huge car park, match day enviroment is great.
We are not worried about the franchise we are competing , we have been since our promotion to SL .
Plus we have John Prescott on board that's always handy

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Look on our forum do you see concern ?, then look at your forum .........

I don't want to argue with you i was just defending my club.

I have to agree with allot of posts on here. Yes hkr is the worst ground I've been to. Stewards are rediculous but I must say I have met allot of good hk fans who like to have a bit of banter. I think hull have the worst fans as most games I have gone to I have seen trouble. There must be a reason no one from hull is aloud in the ground floor bar. Which I witnessed a few years ago. But I don't think that was hkrs fault. I feel if the boot was on the other foot (which it's not) but there is no way hkr or hull would groundshare. I spoke to various hkr fans after our poor loss and they all said I hope you hammer hull. Also the sad 'die die Cooke cooke die' hull fans are rediculous. I don't like allot of rugby players but I would never shout anything like that to a proffesional sportsman.
Io do agree though that the atmosphere at Wakefield can be a bit degrading sometimes. I can shout my head off for 80 mins and only my friends join in. This cannot be good for the players. Please wakey fans get behind your team and club and make your voice heared at our ground.
Ok rant over. I'll await the abuse. Sorry for my spelling, I'm writing this on my phone at work.

I agree the chants from the Hull FC fans towards Paul Cooke were disgraceful , i'm suprised the RFL did not take action , the FC fans did that to him when he played for us.
Good luck for the rest of the season .

You must be joking!!






At least it looked like the Cow pat's had been cleared on Saturday

Cas fan in peace by the way!

cheers, same to you, but I think we need luck with the players we've got mre than you. Unless kear makes some drastick changes this weekend. ( not that I'm expecting a win v hudds but a few changes can't do any harm against a team 90% expect to lose to anyway)

Super League clubs will score a point for each of the following criteria they satisfy:

*1. A stadium capacity of at least 12,000;

2. An average crowd of 10,000 or more;

*3. An average crowd that fills at least 40% of a club's stadium capacity;

4. A turnover of at least £4 million per annum;

*5. Solvency, in accordance with accounting definitions of solvency, although this criterion can be satisfied if there is a written owner's guarantee of the club's debts;

*6. A reasonable playing strength, which is likely to be satisfied if the club has finished the season in the top eight in each of the last three years;

7. A reasonable contribution to junior development, judged by the number of scholarships and the performances of the club's under-21 and under-18 Academy teams in the last three years;

8. The stadium meeting the standard of a premier sporting competition, which is judged on the quality and quantity of its facilities in accordance with detailed criteria;

9. Geographical position: clubs that are more than 20 miles away from any other Super League club will be allocated one point on this criterion;

*10. Compliance with salary cap regulations. Specifically, clubs must not have incurred any beach of the salary cap in the last three years.


Licence categories:

A - 8+ points
B - 5-7 points
C - <4 points

Now remember that we have already submitted and have got acceptance for another east stand extension plus the funding is already in place and that would take us over 12k.
I count that as 5 points and a B by the RFL's own criteria.
So whomever told you that is blowing sunshine up you bumhole 'old bean'.

Welcome to RLFans mate.

Fully agree with everything you said there.



Went to Wakey a few weeks ago, fans seem nice bunch + like it as a traditional ground, but it's no better then ours IMO.

The whole RL licence thing is a load of S***E and we all know it. If your face fits your in Super League and thats that. Crusaders and London get propped up by SL Funding. One day theyre on their a**e next minute starting up somewhere else under a different name, same happened at Gateshead with Hull and sheffield with Hudds but was called a merger, 1 million backhander and pick of the best players!!! If they cant stand on theyre own 2 feet let them go to the wall and let someone else have a go. The rumours over coaches and players of certain teams getting paid by SL is disgusting when other clubs are struggling to pay players and get no help. when will they learn that youll never get afoothold in Rugby Union lands.

Agree with all of that.

According to some car stickers I've seen today though it's the same Hull FC that's been around seen 1865!

That would be the old Hull Sharks. Remember them?

1999 mate

, After they had merged with Gateshead and raped the club and left them in a mess, they were then handed 1.25 million
from the RFL over the next two years , i feel sorry for Gateshead they are in the now lost a lot of ganes on the bounce , Castlefords assistant coach has taken over has he not ?.

Hull FC showed what some clubs can do when a merger takes place they screwed Gateshead bigtime and it stinks.

I do feel for the Wakey & Cas fans i know both are passionate fans and can understand you digging your heels in but i honestly think if you continue to do this the RFL will screw you , if your face fits like Hull FC's did, like Harlequins , like Crusaders you will be looked after if it doesn't and you them off your days are numbered , they are corrupt and ruin our sport.

In my opinion they should stop flogging the dead horse with Quins & Crusaders and look after the " M62" teams , proper rugby league clubs , i have heard the RFL pay Brian Nobles wages !!!.

Agree with you on this Fred, i would rather have a tratidional ground like ours , yours , Cas , Leeds , Bradford & Saints etc than the new stadiums , Saints are playing at Widnes next year until their ground is ready.

I really prefer the traditional grounds seated & terracing banter between the fans , no shiny stadiums just to look good on the TV that are half full if your lucky the atmosphere is e , come on RFL put money into redevolping existing stadiums forget the money you waste on Crusaders , Catalans & Quins " Look after your own " .

Dont forget this offer is still on, if you are looking for something to do tonight!!!

Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFWhat I'll always associate Hull KR with is overzealous stewards who get forceful with people for standing up in their unsafe "temporary" stand and the time they came to the Jungle for a 12pm kick off and by the end of the game most of the Princess Street stand was covered in green beer bottles from the Hull KR fans who overtook the stand, who drinks THAT much at that time of day? not to mention the general sense of something is going to kick off when you're near any of their fans, and the police must have thought so too moving the kick off to 12. Worst team in SL imo, get rid of them no room for 2 Hull clubs etc.'" This is true. They have a 'What are you looking at' mentality. Have you noticed if one of their players makes a big hit then it's great but if the opposition do it then they are viewtopic.php?f=33&t=421878 I will never,ever go to their ground again, i'm glad they are in SL,out of the way.

Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFWhat I'll always associate Hull KR with is overzealous stewards who get forceful with people for standing up in their unsafe "temporary" stand and the time they came to the Jungle for a 12pm kick off and by the end of the game most of the Princess Street stand was covered in green beer bottles from the Hull KR fans who overtook the stand, who drinks THAT much at that time of day? not to mention the general sense of something is going to kick off when you're near any of their fans, and the police must have thought so too moving the kick off to 12. Worst team in SL imo, get rid of them no room for 2 Hull clubs etc.'" This is true. They have a 'What are you looking at' mentality. Have you noticed if one of their players makes a big hit then it's great but if the opposition do it then they are viewtopic.php?f=33&t=421878 I will never,ever go to their ground again, i'm glad they are in SL,out of the way.

Whoops! Sorry, Didn't see the swear filter message! Sorry!


Forgiven this time.

Forget that Criteria cr@p. It's a rat race between us and Cas for a franchise spot, Widnes are going to be in there, and rightly so, they were relegated in order to make way for the french, and on the last day of the season IIRC. They have a good fanbase along with a nice stadium and a good youth development system. Harelequins are seemingly untouchable despite their terrible support, poor/mediocre team and their years of changing location / name. They have been round long enough I think to determine success or failure. But of course they will be somehow overlooked when it comes to the chop. With regards to Crusaders, I think although their business looks at this point in time, doomed to fail, they will be allowed a few more years to see if they can establish themselves as a viable Super League club.

So in the end, its down to us and Cas, and whoever does the best job of convincing the RFL their stadium will have bricks down in time before 2012.

The likes of Leigh, Halifax and Featherstone won't get a look in IMO, which is a shame I reckon, these clubs would make for great away days, especially Featherstone for me personally.