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A forum like this is never the best way to get customer feedback. Ask for people to phone, write, email in, but,a s was proven by McNally and Rogerson, you can't do it on a forum unless you have a very thick skin.

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This isn't an easy subject. We've been fortunate enough that BV hasn't been segregated whilst other stadiums have adapted, modernised or built new stadia which make it much easier to divide fans.

Soon we will be in Newmarket, we will have new surroundings, new views, facilities and of course atmosphere. We won't be able to integrate with away fans like we've previously been lucky enough to do so at BV. I've grown to love the west terrace, and as yet I'm underwhelmed by the North stand but given time I'm sure I'll come to love wherever I stand.

The club are in an unfortunate position of having to enforce segregation. As Davide has kindly eluded to, this was not the clubs wishes, but their arm has been forced by numerous complaints and issues. Lets not point the finger and rather make the best of it before we move to NM. It is not the clubs fault people cannot behave themselves which is the underlying problem. Maybe in future we as fans should also report these idiots to stewards.

Here's to complaining about NM icon_smile.gif

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Quote: wildycat "what do the ladies do at new grounds eh..??

same as the men go to toilet early, its not that far.. They walk the short distance to the plentiful amount of toilets based under the stand they are sat in, not walk all the way across a packed terracing up some steps and join a mile long queue as they are the only bogs availabe in the ground! Anyway they are opening them so thats that problem solved.

I suggest you try seeing other peoples point of view now and again. Its understandabke why the club needs to do this but it has to be done correctly. It wasn't really. You would have thought that something so important that impacted many fans wouldn't have slipped their mind.

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Quote: Topcat13 "Your just a town full of p#%%!$
Sung towards the giants fans who I was stood with on the west terrace.
Courtesy of the cow shed!'"


what does p#%%!$ mean, I think I know what you mean but it was not p#%%!$, it was your just a town full of s..!!
And yes that was tastless,but saying that I have heard far worse in West terrace over the years.. a050.gif

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "A forum like this is never the best way to get customer feedback. Ask for people to phone, write, email in, but,a s was proven by McNally and Rogerson, you can't do it on a forum unless you have a very thick skin.'"


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Quote: Trinity Till Death "This isn't an easy subject. We've been fortunate enough that BV hasn't been segregated whilst other stadiums have adapted, modernised or built new stadia which make it much easier to divide fans.

Soon we will be in Newmarket, we will have new surroundings, new views, facilities and of course atmosphere. We won't be able to integrate with away fans like we've previously been lucky enough to do so at BV. I've grown to love the west terrace, and as yet I'm underwhelmed by the North stand but given time I'm sure I'll come to love wherever I stand.

The club are in an unfortunate position of having to enforce segregation. As Davide has kindly eluded to, this was not the clubs wishes, but their arm has been forced by numerous complaints and issues. Lets not point the finger and rather make the best of it before we move to NM. It is not the clubs fault people cannot behave themselves which is the underlying problem. Maybe in future we as fans should also report these idiots to stewards.

Here's to complaining about NM
a014.gif a014.gif the reporting should start now Racist chants must be band.. and fans being racist at matches also band.. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Theboyem "They walk the short distance to the plentiful amount of toilets based under the stand they are sat in, not walk all the way across a packed terracing up some steps and join a mile long queue as they are the only bogs availabe in the ground! Anyway they are opening them so thats that problem solved.

I suggest you try seeing other peoples point of view now and again. Its understandabke why the club needs to do this but it has to be done correctly. It wasn't really. You would have thought that something so important that impacted many fans wouldn't have slipped their mind.'"


Poor poor excuse, you can walk across the Northstand with ease if you want to meet me match day I will show you, and it is only the width of the pitch to nearest ladies toilet, as for mile long ques, this as been a problem for for ladies for years, thats why some use mens toilets in pubs/night clubs icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif
But like you said they are opening the toilets to home fans in west stand next time so you say, so problem sorted.. icon_biggrin.gif

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Well I got a few bites tonight thanks people enjoyed it, a good debate was had night people sleep tight and keep safe... icon_wave.gif

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Quote: wildycat "Well I got a few bites tonight thanks people enjoyed it, a good debate was had night people sleep tight and keep safe... How very grown up!

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Quote: Davide Longo "I would say around 12 emails received in total.............we don't want any fans to leave the club but equally we can't run the risk of a 20K fine by the RFL'"


On the basis that typically only 10% of people who are aggrieved by any particular issue will actually take complaints forward then the £20k may well already have been lost. The 12 e-mails already take things past the 10% mark. Once the policy is fully publicised on the club website, I'm sure that there will be more complaints.

£20,000 potential fine divided by £20 per ticket = 1,000 tickets

1,000 tickets averaged over the nine matches where this rule will be enforced = 112 fans (ok, 111.1 but you can't buy 0.1 of a ticket).

Add this to the knock-on effect of lower merchandising & food/beverage income then the financial risk of incurring a £20k fine could already have been outweighed by lost income.

While it's obviously preferable that no fine should be incurred, I suspect that there would actually be far less complaints (and fans voting with their feet) if the policy was implemented after a fine had been incurred.

I guess I'll just have to hope that the last game at BV is against Salford, Widnes, London or Catalans!!!

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Quote: wildycat "Well I got a few bites tonight thanks people enjoyed it, a good debate was had night people sleep tight and keep safe...

Not really sure you've helped either the fans who have concerns or the club who are trying to address them by doing this.

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Quote: wildycat "Poor poor excuse, you can walk across the Northstand with ease if you want to meet me match day I will show you, and it is only the width of the pitch to nearest ladies toilet, as for mile long ques, this as been a problem for for ladies for years, thats why some use mens toilets in pubs/night clubs And once again you totally miss the point.

Quote: wildycat "Well I got a few bites tonight thanks people enjoyed it, a good debate was had night people sleep tight and keep safe... And made yourself look rather foolish in the process. Congratulations.

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Quote: Jason "Daft thing is if we had put 40 points on Hull this thread would have been only a few pages long. The whole thing is a balancing act. Sadly the club cannot please all the people all the time.'"


That's your opinion, and it's so far wide of the mark and completely patronising that you could probably get a job in customer care with the club.

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Quote: RDM "On the basis that typically only 10% of people who are aggrieved by any particular issue will actually take complaints forward then the £20k may well already have been lost. The 12 e-mails already take things past the 10% mark. Once the policy is fully publicised on the club website, I'm sure that there will be more complaints.

£20,000 potential fine divided by £20 per ticket

Ah so you are suggesting the club tell the RFL that they aren't going to do anything about crowd trouble as it may upset some of our fans, so please can you fine us so that they understand? d040.gif

I could easily argue that we will recoup the lost fans by having a safe and atmospheric stadium, but it would be pure speculation, just like your post.

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Not really in favour in our style of segregation as I like to change ends at half time.
Don't think it would be too difficult to continue using the western terrace provided I don't turn up in club colours and keep myself from getting too excited.

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