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Quote: crowt123 "could somebody please clarify a point about the license please? I know that we have a license until the end of 2011 season but is it correct that we need to meet the criteria (especially ground) by march 2011? The way things are going we may not have planning permission by then ! If this is the case then the 2011 season could be a complete washout if there is no chance of playing in super league from 2012!
Thanks in advance !'"

Whichever ground Trinity will be playing at in the 2012 season (James Elston has said next year is the last at BV) will be included as the ‘home’ ground in the license application. If Newmarket is still waiting on planning permission next year it seems an alternative has been arranged. Whatever this alternative is will obviously be the Plan B in the event of any major delay to NM and I’m sure the club will already have had guidance form the RFL as to whether the alterative is acceptable to them.

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thanks khlav

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According to todays RL Expressentitled to throw their hat in the ring for a spot in Super League. They will then be measured alongside the existing 14 license holders, in the following areas


That seems to go against what has already been said. That statement does not seem to guarantee a Championship club a place.

However it then goes on to say

"The Championship club that is awarded a license will discover its fate in March 2011. Those clubs outside Super League must submit their applications by December, while Super League clubs will be given until April of next year"


Not sure how a Championship club that has been told in March that it has a franchise can then be measured alongside SL clubs applications if they don't go in until April.



Once again the RFL talking out of its backside and making things up as they go along.

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How on earth can the playing strength and player performance strategy of a championship club compare with that of a SL club.

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I personally think more than one club will go and it could be both of us to let toulouse and widnes in. just a thought , how much longer will the big clubs accept home games without away supporters ? as it stands there are 3 games out of thirteen that have no or very few away support, Catalan, quins and Crusaders, if toulouse get in then thats another slice of income lost for the rest of superleague. were not talking pennies either, if we take 2000 to leeds (usually more ), at 20 quid a ticket thats £40000 lost to the game , just in the name of expansion.

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How are they going to measure criteria e) .... player strength etc of the Championship club against the Superleague clubs? Is there going to be a system of 'play offs'? How can you also measure this factor a season before the 'new' club enters? Aren't they going to allow the Championship club to strengthen their playing roster?

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They appear to be making a mess of this process.

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Quote: PHe "How are they going to measure criteria e) .... player strength etc of the Championship club against the Superleague clubs? Is there going to be a system of 'play offs'? How can you also measure this factor a season before the 'new' club enters? Aren't they going to allow the Championship club to strengthen their playing roster?'"


It’s not a competition between Championship clubs & S.L clubs.

The Championship club / clubs will get the nod around March time. The S.L club / clubs will be told their out around July.

If Red Hall decides to allow two clubs in, then, they (The RFL) will decide which two will make way.

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Quote: ambernotyeller "I personally think more than one club will go and it could be both of us to let toulouse and widnes in. just a thought , how much longer will the big clubs accept home games without away supporters ? as it stands there are 3 games out of thirteen that have no or very few away support, Catalan, quins and Crusaders, if toulouse get in then thats another slice of income lost for the rest of superleague. were not talking pennies either, if we take 2000 to leeds (usually more ), at 20 quid a ticket thats £40000 lost to the game , just in the name of expansion.

come the revolution'"


This is a relevant observation but the decision makers appear to be looking at an NFL style model where away supporters are not important to the economics of a franchise because the overall product generates more 'home' fans who fill stadia. The 'derby' weekends become the exception not the norm. Our (Wakey and Cas) problem with this is that we do not fit as our home attendances are actually dwindling. The question is going to be one of which applicant(s) can deliver a stadium-filling home attendance.

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Quote: rubber man "This is a relevant observation but the decision makers appear to be looking at an NFL style model where away supporters are not important to the economics of a franchise because the overall product generates more 'home' fans who fill stadia. The 'derby' weekends become the exception not the norm. Our (Wakey and Cas) problem with this is that we do not fit as our home attendances are actually dwindling. The question is going to be one of which applicant(s) can deliver a stadium-filling home attendance.'"


I think most S/L home attendances are falling, the question remains , can any S/L club take a hit of £40000 or even more conservatively £20000 four times a season ?

Is the game so rich ??

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Quote: ambernotyeller "I think most S/L home attendances are falling, the question remains , can any S/L club take a hit of £40000 or even more conservatively £20000 four times a season ?

Is the game so rich ??'"


It certainly isn't and there lies the issue. The decisions are being taken by commercially naive administrators who are failing to promote an effective strategy. But why should they worry? They will run the sport into the ground and move on to jobs selling widgets!

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In reply to The Devil's Advocate, (can't do the fancy quotes!), the RL Express quote states: 'Should they satisfy each one of these requirements, they are then entitled to throw their hat in the ring for a spot in Super League. They will then be measured alongside the existing 14 license holders, in the following areas: ......... etc'
Which, to me, does imply that it is a 'competition' between Superleague clubs and the Championshiop contenders.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "They appear to be making a mess of this process.'"


That's what they are good at.

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Quote: PHe "In reply to The Devil's Advocate, (can't do the fancy quotes!), the RL Express quote states


Whilst I appreciate your point regarding the RL Express, I was of the understanding that, at least one Championship club would get the nod in March. I’ve no idea where the RL Express has got that information from.


Quote: PHe "The RFL has confirmed that, subject to fulfilling their minimum criteria, at least one Championship club will be awarded a Super League spot next March.
The RFL has also confirmed Super League will stay at 14 clubs - leaving the current teams facing an anxious wait.'"


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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Whilst I appreciate your point regarding the RL Express, I was of the understanding that, at least one Championship club would get the nod in March. I’ve no idea where the RL Express has got that information from.


'"


It was a quote from RFL compliance manager Blake Solly.

See my earlier post, that is why I said they were doing their usual trick and contradciting themselves in the same article.

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