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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "If presume the press are kept in the dark regarding what is going on like the supporters. I guess they are not interested because what do they have to report on, a developer who currently is to reach the agreed threshold to build a stadium and a council who have nothing to enforce at this time.
All we know is that Belle Vue is an embarrassment and if nobody pays to redevelop then we will need to move to Dewsbury with no indication of what we do then.'"


Whilst I am very much pro Wakefield that is exactly how I read it. Let's face it guys we were given a bad deal. Ok the council can show more verbal support but if the square footage hasn't been built how can it be enforced?

I accept the white monstrosity should have been incorporated into the square footage and that is where the council have let us down. Beyond that, we've been screwed by an agreement which at the moment has no commercial viability and legally we can't push it since the terms of the agreement haven't been broken.

I know my view may not resonate with the sentiment of many on here but I'm just trying to see the wood for the trees.

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Reading between the lines. Possibly another building is being planned for the site?, and now they also wish to operate outside the original agreement. The council clearly realise this will cause a S***storm if it happens, but have tied their own hands after the newcold fiasco.

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The Newcold site should not have been allowed outside the S106 agreement and this could be challenged retrospectively in court. The Council could be found to have acted incompetently with some form of compensation to the Stadium Trust being the result. The court case might also open a big can of worms with WMDC being forced to admit that they didn't fulfil their duties for ulterior motives. Mr Box may be held accountable for his statement on live radio that WMDC had "taken legal advice", a statement that seems to be a total fabrication.

I have been told that the huge Amazon distribution centre being built in Leeds was originally earmarked for Newmarket but they were dissuaded from that site as the issue of the S106 would have been forced and neither Yorkcourt (or whatever they're called now) or the council want the issue exacerbating by another planning application.

It's obvious that both Yorkcourt and Box are playing the long game in the hopes that Wakefield Trinity will leave the City, get relegated or go bust leaving them free and clear to clean up.

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It's obvious that both Yorkcourt and Box are playing the long game in the hopes that Wakefield Trinity will leave the City, get relegated or go bust leaving them free and clear to clean up.'"
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You have it spot on Avenger, that is the biggest problem for Trinity, they [Yorkcourt & Box] look as though they hold all the aces! how good a card player is MC, i think we will soon find out.

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I sincerely hope that something very positive for the future good of Wakefield Trinity RLFC can be gleaned and usefully apllied to the club's cause from the suggestions already submitted on this thread. THEY MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH IT!!!

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I have been told that the huge Amazon distribution centre being built in Leeds was originally earmarked for Newmarket but they were dissuaded from that site as the issue of the S106 would have been forced and neither Yorkcourt (or whatever they're called now) or the council want the issue exacerbating by another planning application.

It's obvious that both Yorkcourt and Box are playing the long game in the hopes that Wakefield Trinity will leave the City, get relegated or go bust leaving them free and clear to clean up.'"


This is the problem, there are buildings going up everywhere apart from Newmarket which we were told during the public enquiry was the best site around the area for developing. So why is nobody wanting to/being encouraged to build there, and are they actually being directed/persuaded to go elsewhere?

You're right in that Yorkcourt seem willing to wait it out, but surely the council should be doing all they can to encourage businesses to this site. Wasn't it changed in the LDF partly due to the amount of jobs that were going to be created up there??

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At Alverthorpe planning has been given to develop units 15 metres from my garden fence. Went to the meeting with other objectors.What a fiasco. Asked in writing why Newmarket was not considered for said units. Got no reply!

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Is waiting them out not an option? If they are waiting for us to move along so they can just build and not have to hook us up with a stadium, can't we just dig in and make the loss of profits a worse option than just building the damn stadium?

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Quote: TrinityIHC "Is waiting them out not an option? If they are waiting for us to move along so they can just build and not have to hook us up with a stadium, can't we just dig in and make the loss of profits a worse option than just building the damn stadium?'"

They could wait us out far longer than we could them.

As an aside, planning permission is only valid for 5 years or so if a start has not been made. With Newcold being under a separate planning application, has any work actually started on the original planning so not to void the outline. The road could constitute a start however I'm not sure if this was part of the Newcold development or not.

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Quote: TrinityIHC "Is waiting them out not an option? If they are waiting for us to move along so they can just build and not have to hook us up with a stadium, can't we just dig in and make the loss of profits a worse option than just building the damn stadium?'"


Mackie is not stuck for cash...I believe his other on-going project is the large commercial/residential development at the bottom of Wrenthorpe by-pass which will no doubt net him another tidy profit.
I suspect he will be quite happy to keep Newmarket/Belle Vue on the back burner icon_rolleyes.gif

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I have been told that the huge Amazon distribution centre being built in Leeds was originally earmarked for Newmarket but they were dissuaded from that site as the issue of the S106 would have been forced and neither Yorkcourt (or whatever they're called now) or the council want the issue exacerbating by another planning application.

It's obvious that both Yorkcourt and Box are playing the long game in the hopes that Wakefield Trinity will leave the City, get relegated or go bust leaving them free and clear to clean up.'"
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I am sorry but you actually believe Wakefield would turn away Jobs and investment just to avoid the possibility that the developer and land owner would have to build us a stadium. The stadium would be of benefit to Wakefield council because I don't think the arrangement required them to put any money into it so why should they side with the developer. I thought some of the other posts were crazy but this is by far the one that is most out there.
i would reiterate other than some wild allegations can someone explain to me on what grounds we could pursue the council through the courts.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I have been told that the huge Amazon distribution centre being built in Leeds was originally earmarked for Newmarket but they were dissuaded from that site as the issue of the S106 would have been forced and neither Yorkcourt (or whatever they're called now) or the council want the issue exacerbating by another planning application.

It's obvious that both Yorkcourt and Box are playing the long game in the hopes that Wakefield Trinity will leave the City, get relegated or go bust leaving them free and clear to clean up.'"


I am sorry but you actually believe Wakefield would turn away Jobs and investment just to avoid the possibility that the developer and land owner would have to build us a stadium. The stadium would be of benefit to Wakefield council because I don't think the arrangement required them to put any money into it so why should they side with th
e developer. I thought some of the other posts were crazy but this is by far the one that is most out there.
i would reiterate other than some wild allegations can someone explain to me on what grounds we could pursue the council through the courts.'"
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So do you think that all that as gone on up to now as been aboveboard? Because I don't think so. I'm not clever enough to give you the evidence you ask for and I don't believe you are to convince me otherwise . Regarding creating new jobs !! Thousands have been lost in other industries for years due to politicians so yes, I do think they couldn't give a toss .

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Quote: "I am sorry but you actually believe Wakefield would turn away Jobs and investment just to avoid the possibility that the developer and land owner would have to build us a stadium. The stadium would be of benefit to Wakefield council because I don't think the arrangement required them to put any money into it so why should they side with the developer. I thought some of the other posts were crazy but this is by far the one that is most out there.
i would reiterate other than some wild allegations can someone explain to me on what grounds we could pursue the council through the courts.
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Scarlett was the only one defended James Elston so I'm not surprised to see him act naive with regards to Box's and Yorkcourts actions.

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All I ask is for someone to tell me on what grounds we could pursue a legal case against the council and the developer. All I have heard so far is hearsay, the only certainty is that regardless of the location of the cold store it would not trigger a new stadium.
I await your update enlightening all of us.

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