This was my point in my rather long-winded thread I posted earlier.

From a fans point of view, it's hard to reconcile. Yes, we hear all the injury stuff but when we see that performance yesterday we just wonder where the hell its been hiding.

When you're capable of being that good why wouldn't you attempt to be so all the time? Yeah, you won't win them all but as you say we'd be nearer 30 points now than 20 even with the injury crisis. Odd.

I don't think Pinkney is correct but equally I don't think anyone is saying we are suddenly world beaters.

I'd say the change, with the injuries we still have make so that we should be aiming to be above Leeds.
We can't get higher but mid table obscurity, not being involved in the 5 or the relegation battle is perfectly fine right now.

When we get Tom, Fifita, Ashurst and Arona back with a couple of other possible changes I'll be hoping for the 5 and a challenge cup run again.

Because life doesn't work like that. You can't be on top of your game every day.
For me that performance would have beaten Leeds and the effort against Hull was comparable but Hull were better than Hull KR. Wigan and Sts would still have beaten us yesterday imho but it would have been a good match.

I don't understand when people equate score line to effort. It's not the only thing that's going on.

Great assessment PT that’s just how I saw it too

I thought things we’re fairly even in the first half
Probably down to Garbutt who was excellent but we worked incredibly hard to stop him

Brough showed some confidence on the right edge a few times too when he semi took the line on which was great to see, him and Reece should be a great attacking threat together

I’d give a special mention to danny kirmomd
I’ve never seen a player look more physically drained after a match
If you cut danny open it would be red white n blue, it’s guts me my little boy won’t be old enough to remember seeing his the effort he puts in

At its simplest level
Our forwards went forward successfully and it gave the back room to work

Also agree re your comments that win had being coming for a couple of weeks now

Extremely pleased to eat a big slice of humble pie yesterday. I was one of the individuals that just could not see the type of performance based on watching us every game for the last 10 weeks. Good to see us put a good team performance in and really grind them down, down the middle and kill them with field position, thought the kicking game and game management for both halfbacks was great yesterday and then of course we eventually ran away with the game which was good to see and good for the old points difference.

Looking at the table, London, Hull KR and Hudds all need to win 2 games out of 3 and for us to not pick up any more points for us to be in threat of relegation, unless of course we get absolutely trounced by Wigan and Wire. I fancy us to pick up a win against Wire or Wigan.

I know it doesn't work like that, that's what makes it odd. I did clearly state that you can't win them all! I'm not trying to explain it as I don't know the ins and outs but it's still frustrating from fans and I assume coaches points of view.

We were never going to be great this season with the injuries, but did we really need to dip so low?

Look how much Warrington have dipped without Austin. It makes a big difference.
Hull had a similar issue to us over past couple of years where injuries took them close to relegation zone.
Both teams have money to just buy another top player.
The difference this tear is the bottom clubs have found wins that wouldn't normally be found.

Saying that Cas have handled Gale missing exceptionally well.

It certainly does - based on their performance this weekend, that's where I'd be looking for the 2 points we need to put this relegation business to bed.

Wigan have done a great job of going back to basics and despite their attack still misfiring, they've shored up their defence and are playing hard and direct, like a Wane team; and London have the hoodoo over us and will be coming to BV full of vim and vigour. But Wire are all over the place - and will be coming off an absolute starching by Saints in the CC Final.

Nothing is a certainty obviously, but I'd like to think we can give them a good go.

All games are a mix of how your own team plays and how well the opposition play. By all accounts, Hull KR were woeful. We weren't. Had we been woeful too, we might have let KR back into it. Had KR played well it would have been a tight and close game. It's always a mix of the two, and it is not slating the winners to say that the losers were poor. KR had a bad day and we were good enough to exploit it. And in a fortnight, no matter how well we play, we'll be wanting Wigan to have an off day.

I don't think many will argue against that 17 being unchanged for the next game.

Will Escare be allowed to play against Wigan ?

Yes.