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Quote: Redscat "Symptomatic of the world we now find ourselves living in, 1315, old chap.

Along with other over seventies my wife and I were waiting outside Iceland at Monk Bretton for the 10.o'clock opening, only to be told by one of the assistants (who had been there since at least 8.30) that they hadn't had any deliveries that morning. Why couldn't he have said that a long time prior to opening.
I think we're hearing a lot of hot air from some retailers who, it appears obvious, are profiteering from the situation and are rubbing their hands. Some of the BIG retailers at that.'"


Working as I do for a big retailer I can tell you there isn’t an ounce of truth in what you say. You really do talk some absolute claptrap at times, frankly it’s embarrassing and insulting.

I’ve been working 14 hours a day or two weeks to ensure the supply chain stays in tact. Are you so daft that you don’t think that the upsurge in consumer demand doesn’t come at a cost! Do you think that suppliers get their employees to work extra hours for free or that other cost such as fuel don’t have a knock on effect on costs.

Costs that ultimately must be carried at leat in part by the end user. If any BIG retailer is making money out of Coronavirus then we’d love to know how.

Finally even to one as deluded as you do you honestly think that any BIG retailer wants to be known as a profiteering company once this is over, seriously do you!

I don’t know why we bother at times with blowhards like you undermining the effort of those who are actually doing something. Instead of moaning about the poor lad at Iceland whose been getting breathed on for weeks by potential carriers why don’t you give him a break and thank him for risking his life or are you too important for that. Just because you are in your seventies doesn’t give you the right to such an over entitled attitude, Coronavirus is not just about you!

Yes, I’m annoyed.

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Quote: Redscat "Symptomatic of the world we now find ourselves living in, 1315, old chap.

Along with other over seventies my wife and I were waiting outside Iceland at Monk Bretton for the 10.o'clock opening, only to be told by one of the assistants (who had been there since at least 8.30) that they hadn't had any deliveries that morning. Why couldn't he have said that a long time prior to opening.
I think we're hearing a lot of hot air from some retailers who, it appears obvious, are profiteering from the situation and are rubbing their hands. Some of the BIG retailers at that.'"


Agree. I was also told by a member of staff at Asda today that one of the reasons they have started to close through the night was to prevent the 'corner shop' owners visiting through the night to buy stock for them to sell on.

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Quote: 1315trinity "Agree. I was also told by a member of staff at Asda today that one of the reasons they have started to close through the night was to prevent the 'corner shop' owners visiting through the night to buy stock for them to sell on.'"


Sorry but that is complete crap.

I also work for a big retailer and can tell you everyone is working their off.
Our VPs were in stores helping out and doing some hard shop floor work just to ease the pressure. All those at head office that can are doing the same.
I'm one of them and I can tell you I was knackered after one day.

We are employing people at a days notice to help the supply chain and give people a chance who have lost jobs. We have 10s of thousands of applications.

They are giving store staff extra weeks pay to say thank you for the efforts
They are giving millions to food bank charities to help out.

The corner shop owners can go any time they like.
The reason they are closing at night is to give stores colleagues a rest and focus all the resource on getting the shelves full again. No other reason.

They are helping vulnerable people by giving them time on their own, even though non vulnerable people are still trying to come in and take advantage. Same for NHS staff.
They are having to recruit extra security because idiots abuse those people trying to help in store because they can't buy 50 toilet rolls.

So please get your facts right.

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Today I called at Aldi on batley road to pick up a few items and was quite surprised to see three security guards present, now that must be costing them more on wages
Then called at Morrison's just in case I was lucky enough but none there too. Had to laugh at a bloke pushing his trolley out with two massive crates of carling and a big packet of bog rolls

Shame we didn't get eggs and flour but there's plenty of food out there, at least I have just enough to bake the Mrs her birthday cake at home.

Stay safe all

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Working as I do for a big retailer I can tell you there isn’t an ounce of truth in what you say. You really do talk some absolute claptrap at times, frankly it’s embarrassing and insulting.

I’ve been working 14 hours a day or two weeks to ensure the supply chain stays in tact. Are you so daft that you don’t think that the upsurge in consumer demand doesn’t come at a cost! Do you think that suppliers get their employees to work extra hours for free or that other cost such as fuel don’t have a knock on effect on costs.

Costs that ultimately must be carried at leat in part by the end user. If any BIG retailer is making money out of Coronavirus then we’d love to know how.

Finally even to one as deluded as you do you honestly think that any BIG retailer wants to be known as a profiteering company once this is over, seriously do you!

I don’t know why we bother at times with blowhards like you undermining the effort of those who are actually doing something. Instead of moaning about the poor lad at Iceland whose been getting breathed on for weeks by potential carriers why don’t you give him a break and thank him for risking his life or are you too important for that. Just because you are in your seventies doesn’t give you the right to such an over entitled attitude, Coronavirus is not just about you!

Yes, I’m annoyed.'"


Bang on Fish. It seems we have a lot in common after all.
A heartfelt thank you from me.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Working as I do for a big retailer I can tell you there isn’t an ounce of truth in what you say. You really do talk some absolute claptrap at times, frankly it’s embarrassing and insulting.

I’ve been working 14 hours a day or two weeks to ensure the supply chain stays in tact. Are you so daft that you don’t think that the upsurge in consumer demand doesn’t come at a cost! Do you think that suppliers get their employees to work extra hours for free or that other cost such as fuel don’t have a knock on effect on costs.

Costs that ultimately must be carried at leat in part by the end user. If any BIG retailer is making money out of Coronavirus then we’d love to know how.

Finally even to one as deluded as you do you honestly think that any BIG retailer wants to be known as a profiteering company once this is over, seriously do you!

I don’t know why we bother at times with blowhards like you undermining the effort of those who are actually doing something. Instead of moaning about the poor lad at Iceland whose been getting breathed on for weeks by potential carriers why don’t you give him a break and thank him for risking his life or are you too important for that. Just because you are in your seventies doesn’t give you the right to such an over entitled attitude, Coronavirus is not just about you!

Yes, I’m annoyed.'"


I didn't know God had another son, fisherman, and you still insist on leaving the second "r" out of your name.
If what you are saying is totally true why am I seeing items in shops and stores costing considerably more than they were a
couple of weeks ago.
Firstly I would cut the insults that you seem to use so freely at times.
Nowhere have I criticised or undermined effort by anybody who are part of the supply chain neither would I do so. Therefore you are wrong on that one'
Secondly. I'm not daft. the reference to the assistant at Iceland was correct He could have told all those who had waited a considerable length of time that there had been no delivery therefore allowing them to try elsewhere in that valuable period.
You're gonna hurt yourself one day fc if you happen to fall off that high horse you seem to be permanently perched on. you are quite embarrassing at times

Without any malice or sarcasm I value the work and extra effort that you and your ilk are doing on behalf of all of us


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My last word on the subject fisherman (you'll be pleased" to hear) is that everything you say and PT says is, I'm assuming, correct regarding yours and your colleagues' efforts in these trying times, BUT, you must be somewhat naive if you aren't aware that in any period of tragedy there is always someone somewhere who is dishonest enough to take advantage of the situation. During the war they were known as spivs, There are retailers large and small who will shamelessly profit greatly from the situation that we find ourselves in.

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Thanks for the pm dreadnaught calling me a pig, yes I'll enjoy a slice of cake on my Mrs birthday icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: snowie "Thanks for the pm dreadnaught calling me a pig, yes I'll enjoy a slice of cake on my Mrs birthday
Lol as I said mate, wrong person plus it didn’t even have the full message.

Hope your mrs had a good birthday, shame about what’s currently going on. Hope you get to head out and enjoy it once all this is all over.

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How’s everyone coping by the way?

A lad off of Eastmoor created a group for those on Facebook where people can aid each other. Called help your communities. Worth checking out if you can help a hand or in turn need help yourself!

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Quote: Redscat "My last word on the subject fisherman (you'll be pleased" to hear) is that everything you say and PT says is, I'm assuming, correct regarding yours and your colleagues' efforts in these trying times, BUT, you must be somewhat naive if you aren't aware that in any period of tragedy there is always someone somewhere who is dishonest enough to take advantage of the situation. During the war they were known as spivs, There are retailers large and small who will shamelessly profit greatly from the situation that we find ourselves in.'"


But you specifically said, in bold, that the big retailers are profiteering.
Big retailers are accepted as Asda, Morrisons, Tesco and Sainsbury. With Aldi and Lidl next in line.
The big 4 are working directly with government on food supply chain. They are not altering prices.

Of course you'll see idiots selling higher on ebay or some individual small traders looking for an extra lift but that's not the same as you said.

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Quote: PopTart "Bang on Fish. It seems we have a lot in common after all.
A heartfelt thank you from me.'"



Thanks PT but the sad fact is that we all have something in common and it’s people surviving this curse.

That’s why I asked on another thread that people keep their political bias to themselves, now isn’t the time.

We’ve made mistakes, I’ve dropped a clanger and I’m mad with myself. Thankfully my direct superior handed me a copy of what we call the SRP’s and asked me to find the section for pandemics. Obviously there wasn’t one and the point was made.

My Gran is in the 70* group and she is seething about the response of some of her contempories. She’s always said her generation was the luckiest that ever lived and got everything given on a plate. As she says she was alive during the war but the sacrifice was made by her parents, all she did was go without sweets.

People need to wake up. Imo for every week this pandemic crippled the country it adds a lest 2 month to the countries recovery time. If we use China as an example we are looking at 24 weeks so that’s four years before we are totally back to where we were just a month ago, so people better get used to it.

Frightening and it nowhere near it’s peak yet.

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Quote: Redscat "My last word on the subject fisherman (you'll be pleased" to hear) is that everything you say and PT says is, I'm assuming, correct regarding yours and your colleagues' efforts in these trying times, BUT, you must be somewhat naive if you aren't aware that in any period of tragedy there is always someone somewhere who is dishonest enough to take advantage of the situation. During the war they were known as spivs, There are retailers large and small who will shamelessly profit greatly from the situation that we find ourselves in.'"


You don’t get the last word Coronavirus does. If you think people like me and I’m an officer not an enlisted man are profiteering at your expense then I can only pity the sort of mentality that can think that way.

Sure there are spivs about but me and my fellow workers even those at the very top are family men and women doing a job, you are branding us as gangsters.

For a man/women as I have no idea what you are who is in there seventies you have a hell of a lot of growing up to do.

Finally none of my colleagues went to Eton, most of us came up through the ranks. None of us have a Jag or a villa in Spain, we just do a job and in the case of management we don’t get overtime for our current efforts and as far as I know nobody has asked for it.

Just think on before you brand people a profiteers, if you knew your history you’d know that the Nazis played the same nasty trick in the 1930’s and that didn’t go well did it!

While you’re at it you should think about apologising to the lad at Iceland whose right on the front line. He’s unlikely to die but it’s not impossible and if he does he will have been far more put out by the virus than you and your wife, ie dead before his life had really begun.

Sadly I suspect I’m wasting my time.

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Quote: PopTart "Sorry but that is complete crap.

I also work for a big retailer and can tell you everyone is working their booty off.
Our VPs were in stores helping out and doing some hard shop floor work just to ease the pressure. All those at head office that can are doing the same.
I'm one of them and I can tell you I was knackered after one day.

We are employing people at a days notice to help the supply chain and give people a chance who have lost jobs. We have 10s of thousands of applications.

They are giving store staff extra weeks pay to say thank you for the efforts
They are giving millions to food bank charities to help out.

The corner shop owners can go any time they like.
The reason they are closing at night is to give stores colleagues a rest and focus all the resource on getting the shelves full again. No other reason.

They are helping vulnerable people by giving them time on their own, even though non vulnerable people are still trying to come in and take advantage. Same for NHS staff.
They are having to recruit extra security because idiots abuse those people trying to help in store because they can't buy 50 toilet rolls.

So please get your facts right.'"


A bit OTT PT but I'll take that on the chin.
I was quoting what a member of staff at Asda told me. That fact WAS correctly quoted.
It seems more likely you wanted to tell me how hard you and your colleagues are working to keep supplies available. I'm sure you are. Lots of people are working harder through this time, you're not unique but nonetheless I acknowledge it.

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Quote: 1315trinity "A bit OTT PT but I'll take that on the chin.
I was quoting what a member of staff at Asda told me. That fact WAS correctly quoted.
It seems more likely you wanted to tell me how hard you and your colleagues are working to keep supplies available. I'm sure you are. Lots of people are working harder through this time, you're not unique but nonetheless I acknowledge it.'"


I did want to tell you as the person in Asda is giving you misinformation or doesn't understand.
I can tell you I am personally not working nearly as hard as those in stores or depots.

Probably was an OTT reply but I felt like I needed to say it.

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