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Quote: vastman "I think people have slightly missed the point. It's really nothing to do with his actual ability and no one would dny he's had a rough close season. Nor would I deny the football we played mid 2012 was excellent.

However with P&R the whole dynamic has changed and now patient builders and thinkers like Agar are no use to clubs like us. We IMHO need motivators. Sure they will do sod all for the team long term but short term points will make prizes.

It really is that simple and for me far to many people are burying their heads in the sand and kidding themselves. There will be no Crusaders this time, our nine lives are spent.'"


Thinker! Now that is hilarious. I think i'll send a team out with no game plan or structure whatsoever. I think i'll only play sixteen players. I think ill play people out of position when we have cover. I think ill have players sat on the bench for 70 minutes when players are blowing out of their backsides. I think ill send Mariano to Fev then sign Jon Molloy. If he's a thinker lets put an idiot in charge can't do any worse.

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Quote: vastman "I think people have slightly missed the point. It's really nothing to do with his actual ability and no one would dny he's had a rough close season. Nor would I deny the football we played mid 2012 was excellent.

However with P&R the whole dynamic has changed and now patient builders and thinkers like Agar are no use to clubs like us. We IMHO need motivators. Sure they will do sod all for the team long term but short term points will make prizes.

It really is that simple and for me far to many people are burying their heads in the sand and kidding themselves. There will be no Crusaders this time, our nine lives are spent.'"
so after two games that line says you've given in, or are you trying to do a Mopsey

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Quote: trin77 "I think ill send Mariano to Fev then sign Jon Molloy.'"


This one keeps coming up; to the best of my knowledge, Mariano's departure to Cas was the result of JE's meddling - and not what RA wanted.

As for Molloy - I'm pretty sure he came to us for free, so hardly one to keep bashing Agar with.

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Quote: bren2k "This one keeps coming up; to the best of my knowledge, Mariano's departure to Cas was the result of JE's meddling - and not what RA wanted.

As for Molloy - I'm pretty sure he came to us for free, so hardly one to keep bashing Agar with.'"

Mariano played well for Cas last night...

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Quote: asmadasa "Mariano played well for Cas last night...'"


He did - but it has no bearing on what I said.

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Quote: bren2k "This one keeps coming up; to the best of my knowledge, Mariano's departure to Cas was the result of JE's meddling - and not what RA wanted.

As for Molloy - I'm pretty sure he came to us for free, so hardly one to keep bashing Agar with.'"


Molloy may have come for free but, he will still be taking a wage that could be spent elsewhere ?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Molloy may have come for free but, he will still be taking a wage that could be spent elsewhere ?'"


No - my information was that he was *playing* for free, to rehab himself and try to earn a contract.

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Quote: bren2k "No - my information was that he was *playing* for free, to rehab himself and try to earn a contract.'"

Think your info is wrong. He trained with the team for a couple of weeks early last season prior to signing to prove his fitness, he then signed a permanent deal until the end of this season. Doubt he is on a fortune but given it is an Elston contract it is probably over the odds.

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Quote: Wakey Til I Die "Think your info is wrong. He trained with the team for a couple of weeks early last season prior to signing to prove his fitness, he then signed a permanent deal until the end of this season. Doubt he is on a fortune but given it is an Elston contract it is probably over the odds.'"


Sounds like my info was right at the time then - thanks for the clarification.

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Quote: bren2k "Sounds like my info was right at the time then - thanks for the clarification.'"


You really are a politician, step forward Mr Howard.

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Quote: snowie "so after two games that line says you've given in, or are you trying to do a Mopsey'"


Come on Snowie you can do better, where did I say that.

I said that we IMO have used all our luck where relegation is concerned and the only way to avoid it is to start playing our way out of it sooner not later.

This tam IMHO has the ability to challenge for 8th spot if we could hit full potential but for now beating the other relegation teams is the name of the game - and I don't think we look motivated enough to do it same way as we were not motivated enough last year to hit top 8.

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Quote: vastman "You really are a politician, step forward Mr Howard.'"


I can be, but not on this occasion; I was partly right and I thanked my right honourable friend for filling in a gap in my knowledge.

Either way - using Molloy as a stick to beat Agar with is wrong, as I think the posts above prove.

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Still think I'm wrong, an idiot, a stupid poster etc etc etc....

I got Glover spot on when the big love in began and I can assure you it gives me no joy to say it but I'm spot on with Agar.

He's lost the dressing room, anyone can see that.

Also I was right about Finn, he's a far better player than Godinet or Sammut, but hey the wrong accent and the wrong division and all the forum experts wrote him off. Mark my words that bloke will be a major factor in burying us when we play Cas - and they will absolutely destroy us on good Friday and all they are is an average team, nothing special despite the normal hype.

Hope they do because they will be doing us a favour.

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Quote: vastman "Still think I'm wrong, an idiot, a stupid poster etc etc etc....

I got Glover spot on when the big love in began and I can assure you it gives me no joy to say it but I'm spot on with Agar.

He's lost the dressing room, anyone can see that.

Also I was right about Finn, he's a far better player than Godinet or Sammut, but hey the wrong accent and the wrong division and all the forum experts wrote him off. Mark my words that bloke will be a major factor in burying us when we play Cas - and they will absolutely destroy us on good Friday and all they are is an average team, nothing special despite the normal hype.

Hope they do because they will be doing us a favour.'"


Did he actually ever know where it was?

I believe the directions to the dressing room where in a little black book Agar lost many years ago.............many chapters in the book,including - defensive structures,attacking structures,discipline,ball retention,set moves,man management of players,motivation techniques,youth development,effective use of interchanges,dropping your fav players and spotting a lemon.

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Quote: vastman "Still think I'm wrong, an idiot, a stupid poster etc etc etc....

I got Glover spot on when the big love in began and I can assure you it gives me no joy to say it but I'm spot on with Agar.

He's lost the dressing room, anyone can see that.

Also I was right about Finn, he's a far better player than Godinet or Sammut, but hey the wrong accent and the wrong division and all the forum experts wrote him off. Mark my words that bloke will be a major factor in burying us when we play Cas - and they will absolutely destroy us on good Friday and all they are is an average team, nothing special despite the normal hype.

Hope they do because they will be doing us a favour.'"


Finn better than sammut don't be daft. For one different types of player so hard to compare but sammut looked dangerous everytime he had the ball today. One of the few bright spots from today was his performance.

I don't think Finn has anything to offer other than a slight better than average kicking game

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