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| Quote: dragon13 "We all know there not rummers though we ARE gonna lose at least 6 of our better players.but the club still want us fans to come and buy ST etc but how can we be expected to.i get that its needed but really only die hard fans will i for one will probally not go to as many not because i just walk away when things arnt good but because of the reason i go i go to enjoy and whats there gonna be to enjoy about watchin the team i love getting smashed every week........sorry to say none'"
Then calamity becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Withdraw support (money) and the sale of payers is inevitable. Offer support, bring in money, and you may be able to retain what you've got. Everyone makes their own choice, of course, but ultimately, that's how things will pan out.
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| Quote: dragon13 "We all know there not rummers though we ARE gonna lose at least 6 of our better players.
Do we? you/we do not know that at all, we may expect it - but that is totally different. You trying to pass it off as fact is as gamaging to the club as what you are accusing them of.
but the club still want us fans to come and buy ST etc but how can we be expected to.
Of course they do, and if we don't we have helped to see the club off, its very simple - if we don't back them they will cease to be at least as a super league club.
i get that its needed but really only die hard fans will i for one will probally not go to as many not because i just walk away when things arnt good but because of the reason i go i go to enjoy and whats there gonna be to enjoy about watchin the team i love getting smashed every week........sorry to say none
And here lies the trouble and why with bad management we end up in this situation as often as we do, supporters only want the best and even then they aren't prepared to pay for it, only being interested in cut price STs and then still bemoaning this that and the other.
We dont have a wealthy backer and we are'nt Leeds or Wigan therefore we are in a dog fight until we can be more profitable and then maybe we may be able to attract more investment. Until then its down to everyone to pitch in.'"
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| Quote: dragon13 "We all know there not rummers though we ARE gonna lose at least 6 of our better players.but the club still want us fans to come and buy ST etc but how can we be expected to.i get that its needed but really only die hard fans will i for one will probally not go to as many not because i just walk away when things arnt good but because of the reason i go i go to enjoy and whats there gonna be to enjoy about watchin the team i love getting smashed every week........sorry to say none'"
I don't know whether I'll buy a Season Ticket if we go down but I will be paying on the door and still watching.
Saying that I've already got mine for next year so I'm daft enough to do it anyway.
At the end of the day I don't support individual players, I support Wakefield rugby league club....and whichever players play for them. So the who's playing question won't stop me going.
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| Quote: dragon13 "We all know there not rummers though we ARE gonna lose at least 6 of our better players.but the club still want us fans to come and buy ST etc but how can we be expected to.i get that its needed but really only die hard fans will i for one will probally not go to as many not because i just walk away when things arnt good but because of the reason i go i go to enjoy and whats there gonna be to enjoy about watchin the team i love getting smashed every week........sorry to say none'"
That's your perogative - however the more people that react like this, the less chance there will be of there being a club to come back to at some point in the future.
I've got my season ticket, as I have had for as long as I can remember and I'll do whatever else I can to help the club through this mess (unfortunately I don't have £M's to spare otherwise we would not be having these discussions).
Wakefield Trinity is a part of my life and I don't want to lose it, so I'll do what I can. If the worst happens then at least I will know I tried. I wish the club wasn't at this point again, but it is, so now is the time for us all to stand up and fight for what we want.
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| Quote: PopTart "I don't know whether I'll buy a Season Ticket if we go down but I will be paying on the door and still watching.
Saying that I've already got mine for next year so I'm daft enough to do it anyway.
At the end of the day I don't support individual players, I support Wakefield rugby league club....and whichever players play for them. So the who's playing question won't stop me going.'"
Exactly, look at my signature..
[sizeThe name on the front of the shirt is more important than the one on the back[/size
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| Quote: Durham Giant "To be honest at times like this it is best to keep away from forums because most people tend to be negative.
Other than getting behind the club and doing what you can do it is a case of what will be will be.'"
Indeed. You may be right.
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| Quote: Fordy "That's your perogative - however the more people that react like this, the less chance there will be of there being a club to come back to at some point in the future.
I've got my season ticket, as I have had for as long as I can remember and I'll do whatever else I can to help the club through this mess (unfortunately I don't have £M's to spare otherwise we would not be having these discussions).
Wakefield Trinity is a part of my life and I don't want to lose it, so I'll do what I can. If the worst happens then at least I will know I tried. I wish the club wasn't at this point again, but it is, so now is the time for us all to stand up and fight for what we want.'"
The problem is i'm hearing plenty of fans reacting in that way, many have had enough and just don't have the stomach for the fight anymore. I've also heard it said that it is like watching a dear old relative ebbing away and they are in so much pain that everyone will be glad when they are finally at rest and the pain and stress are over. People have had enough of the false dawns, the lies, the disappointments year after year.
Without a multi-millionaire coming in we are never going to compete with the big boys, at best the odd decent season and a play-off game is as good as it will get. Society is a different place these days, people want everything tomorrow, they want instant success. Patience is a dinosaur and the fans that jumped on the the good ship Trin on the back of cheap tickets when things were looking up, won't hang around when the proverbial hits the fans. They'll be off to find the next bandwagon.
Problem is this time many of the old guard are battle weary and have had enough, especially so soon after the last meltdown. Right now many of these, who have fought tooth and nail in the past, would be willing to let the old relative pass away to ease the pain so they don't have to go through it all again. Its sad, but you know what?, I wouldn't blame them for walking away this time if thats what they want to do. They have done their time, they have earned their stripes and there are other, less stressful, things in life to do that don't involve Wakefield Trinity. They are probably cheaper as well.
My ticket is bought for next year but after 30 years the enjoyment is starting to wain. I don't have any extra money to spend on the club, in fact circumstances are dictating that I am probably going to have to spend less this coming season. And I know i'm not the only one, times aren't great financially for many and because of that the clubs plea for financial help from the fans could be a forlorn one. With relegation next year the clubs superleague future is at serious risk but we are likely to be going into the season with a weaker side whilst all around (maybe bar London) are strengthening theirs. And relegation could well mean an elongated spell in the lower divisions and a lost generation of fans as a result. I hope we can get through the next couple of months and a white knight rides in to saves us but right now things seem quite bleak. It's a bad time to be having a bad time.
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| Quote: Wildthing "Indeed. You may be right.'"
Equally he might be just as wrong.
Unquestionably there is a lot of negativity and doubt but this is over the years what we have become to expect being a Wakey fan, so it is at least understandable (to us anyway) if not to outsiders.
It is (less so) a vehicle for gathering support for change and that is also evident.
One thing that we should not discourage though is participation after all everyone has an opinion and at heart - the best of intentions for their club.
We are independent and we should have a voice - for good would be ideal but arriving at that is sometimes difficult and always different for each individual supporter.
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| Quote: kinleycat "B and M Cleaning?'"
You know I mean the name on the badge, however if the sponsors name on the front was Sony, or Coca-Cola, or Apple then the same would apply.
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| Quote: Theboyem "The problem is i'm hearing plenty of fans reacting in that way, many have had enough and just don't have the stomach for the fight anymore. I've also heard it said that it is like watching a dear old relative ebbing away and they are in so much pain that everyone will be glad when they are finally at rest and the pain and stress are over. People have had enough of the false dawns, the lies, the disappointments year after year.
Without a multi-millionaire coming in we are never going to compete with the big boys, at best the odd decent season and a play-off game is as good as it will get. Society is a different place these days, people want everything tomorrow, they want instant success. Patience is a dinosaur and the fans that jumped on the the good ship Trin on the back of cheap tickets when things were looking up, won't hang around when the proverbial hits the fans. They'll be off to find the next bandwagon.
Problem is this time many of the old guard are battle weary and have had enough, especially so soon after the last meltdown. Right now many of these, who have fought tooth and nail in the past, would be willing to let the old relative pass away to ease the pain so they don't have to go through it all again. Its sad, but you know what?, I wouldn't blame them for walking away this time if thats what they want to do. They have done their time, they have earned their stripes and there are other, less stressful, things in life to do that don't involve Wakefield Trinity. They are probably cheaper as well.
My ticket is bought for next year but after 30 years the enjoyment is starting to wain. I don't have any extra money to spend on the club, in fact circumstances are dictating that I am probably going to have to spend less this coming season. And I know i'm not the only one, times aren't great financially for many and because of that the clubs plea for financial help from the fans could be a forlorn one. With relegation next year the clubs superleague future is at serious risk but we are likely to be going into the season with a weaker side whilst all around (maybe bar London) are strengthening theirs. And relegation could well mean an elongated spell in the lower divisions and a lost generation of fans as a result. I hope we can get through the next couple of months and a white knight rides in to saves us but right now things seem quite bleak. It's a bad time to be having a bad time.'"
Well said, its hard to stay and its hard to walk away.
One day i feel like fighting on and the next i feel like jackin it in
Its np fun anymore.
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| Quote: El Rey "Well said, its hard to stay and its hard to walk away.
One day i feel like fighting on and the next i feel like jackin it in
Its np fun anymore.'"
It'll be fun on Sunday when we beat Cas!!
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| Agree with you on that El Ray, I have been a fan for God knows how many years and I always buy a season ticket and a shirt and every home game I buy a programme and a raffle ticket (or score prediction) I even bought £200 worth of shares when Ted put out his distress call. I love the game and I love the team and the fans but I get totally p-----d off with the continued selling of players and the threat of closure. My head tells me to call it a day but my heart tells me it will be better next year. When you look round the league of ex Wakey players who are playing very well it makes you think if only. AG said we would never be a selling club again but words are cheap, like some of our players I suppose.
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| Quote: cyclone65 "of course the debt is bigger, its massively bigger, the 400K is operations shortfall to get us through to the next income of cash. The off season we have 19's and first team squad to pay, plus every non playing staff member too ! That's what's needed, the debt is another huge problem, so is the directors loan from west York's window's at over 400K itself
4 Million was the figure quoted but I thought it was a bit excessive.
I hope your ok and end up getting sorted out. wouldn't want to see you lot or cas go under
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| Quote: Theboyem "The problem is i'm hearing plenty of fans reacting in that way, many have had enough and just don't have the stomach for the fight anymore. I've also heard it said that it is like watching a dear old relative ebbing away and they are in so much pain that everyone will be glad when they are finally at rest and the pain and stress are over. People have had enough of the false dawns, the lies, the disappointments year after year.
Without a multi-millionaire coming in we are never going to compete with the big boys, at best the odd decent season and a play-off game is as good as it will get. Society is a different place these days, people want everything tomorrow, they want instant success. Patience is a dinosaur and the fans that jumped on the the good ship Trin on the back of cheap tickets when things were looking up, won't hang around when the proverbial hits the fans. They'll be off to find the next bandwagon.
Problem is this time many of the old guard are battle weary and have had enough, especially so soon after the last meltdown. Right now many of these, who have fought tooth and nail in the past, would be willing to let the old relative pass away to ease the pain so they don't have to go through it all again. Its sad, but you know what?, I wouldn't blame them for walking away this time if thats what they want to do. They have done their time, they have earned their stripes and there are other, less stressful, things in life to do that don't involve Wakefield Trinity. They are probably cheaper as well.
My ticket is bought for next year but after 30 years the enjoyment is starting to wain. I don't have any extra money to spend on the club, in fact circumstances are dictating that I am probably going to have to spend less this coming season. And I know i'm not the only one, times aren't great financially for many and because of that the clubs plea for financial help from the fans could be a forlorn one. With relegation next year the clubs superleague future is at serious risk but we are likely to be going into the season with a weaker side whilst all around (maybe bar London) are strengthening theirs. And relegation could well mean an elongated spell in the lower divisions and a lost generation of fans as a result. I hope we can get through the next couple of months and a white knight rides in to saves us but right now things seem quite bleak. It's a bad time to be having a bad time.'"
Good Post
Could still be enough life in Old Girl if she can get treatment from a 'Doctor Dosh'
However without that you are right, could be time for her to go on The Liverpool Pathway.
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