Agar going no where, cost a bob or two to get shut, so we have to put up with him

You sound like you know a bit more about what goes on behind the scenes, but unless performances improve, the club have to assess what impact this will have on season ticket sales for next year. Nick Fozzard has been brought in to bring more revenue to the club, he is going to have a difficult time to attract new sponsors to a club that lets people down on a regular basis. Isn't this what James Elston should be doing? Successful clubs attract investment. This is probably why we are a selling club, as it's easier to sell a player than sack a coach.

I fear you are right. From the word go, a^$£ and elbow sprang to mind. Well meant and hard working but did not seem like they knew what they were doing. Lots of little things like the bottle bar obstructing the East Stand walkway. Then a big thing with the tax. I just have an uncomfortable feeling we will be back revisiting our old nightmare again..hope I'm wrong

10% below where we should have been with the players we have had in my opinion. And never mind the percentages, look at the play...generally abysmal and disorganised with a few good perfomances out of 40+ matches. If Agar had more money, I'm not sure we would ever do as well as we ought. I wouldn't give him my money to spend

Just shows how ignorant of reality you clearly are

I just think we need a defensive specialist adding to the coaching staff.

Agar is noway a good sl coach he just gotvs bit of luck towards the end of last season.if you look at things our defence as alwsys been poor since the day he took over as our effort in defending kicks i can remember watching the cas friendly match at start of last season and thinkin summet needs to be done bout that and 18 months on how many trys are we still concedin from kicks.
His signings too yes he made some good but some bad so yes he got aiton smith collis but got lynne john molloy.and to let ellis go was stupid.to me agar has to go but he wont

I preffered watching the waifs strays and kids play when the club was down the shoot and JK and PB managed to get the group to perform beyond their individual capabilities. This lot are a much more talented group but woefully underperforming. I wonder what the JK could have achieved with this group, pretty certain he would have had much more success than the current boss.

The thing is JK isn't here nor I doubt will be coming back.. We'll all have our different opinions of what he will do with the squad but in reality we will never actually find out.
We just need to get behind the lads and hopefully the click and put some performances in so we stay above Castleford!

I just don't understand why it's going so wrong at the moment. On paper we have a talented 19 or so players but although they've been playing together for 18 months they're playing like its the first time.

Defence is my biggest concern and I'd love to see the stats and know what the real issues are with the team.

Are the players and coaches working well together because their performances suggest otherwise, wonder if there is friction?

I think it may be a complacency issue, suffering from the so called "second season syndrome." It's up to Agar to arrest this as soon as possible.

Its injuries and suspensions to key people, which have effected the team. As well as not playing together regularly, the obvious defects from last year that have not been fixed ie wingers and high balls.

What a load of old rubbish. You don't have a 7 game winning streak in SL and put it down to luck. WE managed to beat Leeds and Saints in that period. Of course were in a rut at the moment it happens, Agar coached us to over a 50% win rate last season, that's the first time since 2009 we achieved that and only the 3rd time since we've been in SL. People need to get real in their assessment of our their expectations. With our budget anything around 50% win rate is excellent. To call for Agars head at this stage of the season is crazy, the ability is there in team, it just seems a few players have dropped out of form at the same time along with other carrying injuries. I'm sure Agar knows what needs to be done. Lets get this killer of a game over with this weekend and see how we go against Salford and London.

Fans do really over react, I think last year fans thought we was going to progress higher then 8th, in reality that will never happen unless we have a bigger investment into the team. I can't see that happening anytime before Newmarket.

I am shocked! Sensible post on this thread.
Thank you DeeHell.