It's the playing side and coaching/ conditioning side that need a mass shake up!

If we are Sl next year, we need to be looking at a brown, McGuire type coach and tempting a good conditioner from a top team I'n Sl or nrl.

I still dont think sacking kear will do us any favours ATM but I would let drury take the reigns more with kear taking a back seat.

I dread to think what Kear could do with a full salary cap next season if everything goes to plan.

Btw, to win the 9s would be a brief respite and small positive.

Quite right. A 14 try mauling by a team who were 11th before kick off is much better.

Is there a link between us doing well in the nines and Kear not being in charge of that team?

Yes will be going along to that those lads really desreve our support and I enjoy watching them far more than the first team.

It's a different game I'n many ways but the way dreary has the youngsters playing is a different style to kear. Would be interesting to see that style with the current crop

For me the telling point is how much the performance of players improves after they leave Trinity and work under other coaches. Take Millard and Blanch and to a lesser extent Jeffries this season.We all saw the video of "magic millard" when he played in Australia but he was not allowed to show his undoubted talents in our coaching set-up. Now at Catalans he is showing exactly what we missed.In previous seasons we have released players such as Grix, Atkins,Griffin and others who have gone on to be better players, they can't all be coincidences !

More evidence Kear is loosing the plot. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

More evidence Kear is loosing the plot. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

The starting 13 are playing well for starters.

The comments on the interchange bench - he picks it and insists on putting Hickey on it and a young French lad whose only experience of British RL is the 9's.

No acknowledgement of our failings and what he intends to do about them or that he has to take some responsibility as the coach.

The players are trying their best and we have to have empathy with them. I don't think recent performances suggest that the players are trying their best and we shouldn't be offering excuses for what we are seeing on the field which is totally unacceptable.

I don't agree with the 'almost overnight' bit. They still had top half table teams to start with, and certainly they did improve their teams a lot.