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| From a Wigan's point of view, your still feeling the effect of Brough leaving. Your pack is solid and showed on Monday that they can compete. Your defence out wide worried me a little and it was proved when of all people Joel Tomkins out paced your winger and centre for his try.
Hope you don't get too downhearted by this, because I like Wakefield and hopefully see you in the play offs
Oh, and we wouldn't mind you beating the likes of Warrington and Saints either
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| Did any one else find the funny side of the flyer, 'Hopefully we can look forward to many more games like this in the coming years'
(I'm fully aware it was written for the cas game, but it was a moment of light relief at half time)
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| Quote: ETC "Did any one else find the funny side of the flyer, 'Hopefully we can look forward to many more games like this in the coming years'
Glad to be of service!
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| The "highlights" of the Wigan game are on the Super League site. Or you could stick pins in your eyes.
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| Not taking anything away from Wigan who are a class apart at present and serving me very well with the handicaps week on week as well.
Must say I tend to agre with Kear and his rant about the game. He's right in many ways the game is becoming quite sterile and predictable one team gets on top runs in points game over after 20 mins. One team get a succession of penalties to take them downfield,result more often than not a try and more often than not the referee does have a major impact on the game. Thaler last night a case in point, only one side was getting pinged for infringements at the play the ball, yet the side that was'nt was the main protaganist. So any effect on the result of course. I liked Longy's comment in the Hull derby when the ref pulled him out "It's called rugby league,not tag sir".
JK made the point if he wanted to see a maul he'd go watch Union,he's right our tackles are turning the game into a union style maul.
We have got to let the footballers back into the game, there's to much empasis on speed in getting back and speed in play the ball and of course the hail mary high kick out wide for the touchdown.
I don't have the answer, maybe bring back contested scrums for one, but I know I don't enjoy the game because of this predictability as much as a few years back. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
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| danny kirmond did 60 tackles yesterday and was battered and bruised afterwards! He also said that wigan were the best team he'd ever faced. Credit to Wigan,turn the crusaders over and things will look ok. up the trin!
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "The "highlights" of the Wigan game are on the Super League site. Or you could stick pins in your eyes.'"
Pass the pins please.
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| Quote: MUTLEY CAT "shows how different fans see a game i thought tronc had gone home and a shy newbie was in the 8 shirt, its a game of 2 halves and blanch recovered in the 2nd . to give a player 3 is very disrespectful and shows that (I may be wrong i know) you have never played the game at anything other than junior level. It also takes away the fact that wigan were very good . i was annoyed with the attitude in the first half but tbf Richards as been scoring tries like that for years the first one was very preventable but that's the way it goes at times.'"
if Blanch got better i a dutch man he made little or no effort to catch the ball from kicks that led to tries he did not even jump he was woeful 3 was kind
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| Quote: The Trip "One team get a succession of penalties to take them downfield, result more often than not a try'"
Perhaps to eradicate this usual tactic of gaining field position perhaps as a result of a penalty just the tackle count gets wiped and play is continued from where the infringement took place.
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| Quote: The Trip "Not taking anything away from Wigan who are a class apart at present and serving me very well with the handicaps week on week as well.
Must say I tend to agre with Kear and his rant about the game. He's right in many ways the game is becoming quite sterile and predictable one team gets on top runs in points game over after 20 mins. One team get a succession of penalties to take them downfield,result more often than not a try and more often than not the referee does have a major impact on the game. Thaler last night a case in point, only one side was getting pinged for infringements at the play the ball, yet the side that was'nt was the main protaganist. So any effect on the result of course. I liked Longy's comment in the Hull derby when the ref pulled him out "It's called rugby league,not tag sir".
JK made the point if he wanted to see a maul he'd go watch Union,he's right our tackles are turning the game into a union style maul.
We have got to let the footballers back into the game, there's to much empasis on speed in getting back and speed in play the ball and of course the hail mary high kick out wide for the touchdown.
I don't have the answer, maybe bring back contested scrums for one, but I know I don't enjoy the game because of this predictability as much as a few years back. Or maybe I'm just getting old.'"
By having a controlled ruck speed you have to have more footballers in your team to open up a defence that is set. If you have a really quick play the ball, like certain coaches seem to want this season after being beaten by Wigan, the only players you will develope are hookers the likes of Higham who just pick up the ball from dummy half and run direct into the gaps around the ruck, it doesnt create skillful players
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| Quote: wakeyjosh "The sliding defence just isn't working for us... Leaving our wingers on their own with a 2 man overlap. Jeffries kicking was poor and we lacked creativity.'"
I do think our defensive patterns seem not to be working completely to plan at the minute, we are playing a combination of compressed/slide defence but the slide in the outsides three is not either moving quick enough or missing the slide altogether; think its probably a defensive tactic by Kear to try and compress the middle of the park to emphasise our strength in the pack, against the weaker sides it is working but against the better sides who can move the ball we are been caught short very badly - we have shipped 50 against Wigan, Huddersfield and were lucky not to against Warrington.
The stats of opposing teams MOM coming from their 3/4 line is an indication (one for the stats men to work out if this is particular unusual, my hunch it is)
Looking forward for Cooke feeling confident to start putting his hand up and claiming the ball now that Brough has left, it's just a matter of time as think. In the mean time would like Obst to stick at 9, i feel we lack direction and organisation with him at half back.
We look a bit downhearted from the off Sunday - imagine the loss of Brough and Tronc unsettled is affecting us,however we should remember that when we did look interested on Sunday we went and scored a few tries, so like to see a bit of belief from someone.
Credit to Wigan though-class team- their backs especially are probably the best in the game at the minute.
Still expect us to take the points off Celtic.
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| Quote: Adam Knighton's Step " SNIP.'"
That's a good analysis but we can't paper over some weak defensive displays of some of the players individually!
Blanch was guilty on at least two occasions of coming in to tackle the centre, finding himself in no man's land and leaving Pat Richards free on the wing.
That's just poor defensive awareness whatever system you are playing and he's not the only one to be guilty of it this year. You have to play with some discipline with regards to your positioning and you also have to have confidence in the man on your inside. As a centre it always P'd me off when my winger came off his wing to help me make a tackle that I could complete on my own, more often than not it costs you points!
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| I have to say I am really impressed by the well-balanced comments on this and other threads on the Wakefield board, what a great set of fans.
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| Quote: gpartin "I have to say I am really impressed by the well-balanced comments on this and other threads on the Wakefield board, what a great set of fans.'"
Thanks, its a shame some of the comments on the Wigan board don't match it though.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Thanks, its a shame some of the comments on the Wigan board don't match it though.'"
Thats because a lot of them are total idiots and I can only apologise for them. I use other forums primarily I usually come on here (RLFans) for a week or so and end up getting really annoyed so clear off for a few months. At the moment I've got a few Wigan fans arguing with me for daring to suggest we are scoring more tries from free flowing rugby rather than kicks to the corner and a fan on the Hull board who wanted to drag me into an argument simply because I went to the Hull V Warrington game and thought Hull were hard done by, I'm not a Hull fan so nothing I say could possibly be right. Bearing all that in mind I think either you have a great set off fans or your mods have done a good job getting rid of the idiots, either way its worth complimenting.
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