FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > ALL CHANGE AT THE "ICONIC" BULLS...NOT !!
178 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
TRB
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2021Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15993_1515231183.jpeg
[color=#400000:2dasnjxb]"Wakefields Sporting Crusader"[/color:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#FF0000:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Stadium for Wakefield campaign, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://www.swag-online.co.uk[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#0000FF:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Supporters Trust, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://wakefield.rlfans.com[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15993.jpeg



Quote: Bully_Boxer "That's not what the poster wrote in their post. And do you know what the 2014 squad is costing in comparison to the 2013 squad? Please share if you do...

Wakefield obviously decided that the cutbacks they needed to make would have to come from the 1st team, but why does it follow that Bradford HAVE to do it that way?
The new board have drawn up their own budgets (after consulting other SL clubs) and they feel after the recent streamlining that they're in a position that is manageable. Obviously things will remain tight until we're once again receiving the full funding.

I just found it incredibly insulting to see somebody spouting a load of crap about how our spending hasn't changed. Tell that to the poor sods who have recently been made redundant.'"


You had little credibility left before this post - Wakefield have cut as much as can humanly be cut behind the scenes as well as in the playing squad.

The position with the Bulls is that you couldn't pay your debts, have cut and run from them and can now offer 'what we can afford' to those you choose to do business with.

If this is wrong - please go and tell Michael Carter.

If the RFL deal with this in accordance with proper procedure, then we will all move on with our lives. If they don't, and aren't publicly seen to do so, then you, any club relegated in your place and the game itself will live on in the shadow of an unfair and biased system, one for which will be the end for many and the whole credibility of the sport will be thrust into the spotlight once more.

There will be a storm!

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



it will not be one club that will feel bitter if Bradford RFL don't get the deserve points deduction, no doubt both clubs that get relegated will feel that they had not received fairness

my honest opinion is that they shouldn't be even in SL after what they did to the fans first time round,


absolute disgrace icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4591
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41301_1618663057.jpg
Wakefields roller coaster ride continues.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41301.jpg



Quote: snowie "it will not be one club that will feel bitter if Bradford RFL don't get the deserve points deduction, no doubt both clubs that get relegated will feel that they had not received fairness

my honest opinion is that they shouldn't be even in SL after what they did to the fans first time round,


absolute disgrace This

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4591
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41301_1618663057.jpg
Wakefields roller coaster ride continues.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41301.jpg



Quote: snowie "it will not be one club that will feel bitter if Bradford RFL don't get the deserve points deduction, no doubt both clubs that get relegated will feel that they had not received fairness

my honest opinion is that they shouldn't be even in SL after what they did to the fans first time round,


absolute disgrace This

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2110No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



On today's showing they will need a points start not deduction. icon_lol.gif

On a serious note its pretty obvious they have serious problems and a poor team will just add to them,odsal is a soulless place when it's full and lets be honest Bradford isn't a proper rl hotbed despite its success and the numbers will continue to dwindle with an un-successful side.

I can see the rfl brushing this latest administration under the carpet but it won't help them long term the days of bull mania are gone!! There a spent force

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach836
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Cannot believe Adeybull on TotalRL complaining that Bulls have not got a sugar daddy and this is why there are now in hard times….Nothing to do with Iestyn Harris, living above there means and mis management then !!

RankPostsTeam
International Star2691No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
fonds blancs/The%20Elbonians.gif
:fonds blancs/The%20Elbonians.gif



Think what may hit the Bulls hard in the long run, is if the away fans stay away depending on the Bulls treatment.
Would be interesting to hear the 'projected' home attendances to ensure an even keel.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50722_1319672516.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg



Quote: cocker "Cannot believe Adeybull on TotalRL complaining that Bulls have not got a sugar daddy and this is why there are now in hard times….Nothing to do with Iestyn Harris, living above there means and mis management then !!'"


Adeybull is a loquacious apologist for whichever regime happens to be in situ at the time - until they go pop - at which point he comes over all 'I knew that was going to happen' and tries to deflect any wrongdoing onto people who can't respond. This time around the enemy is OK, and he's busy convincing everyone that since he's the only creditor who'll lose out, he deserves everything he gets and the Bulls should not suffer any further penalty.

TRB
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2021Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15993_1515231183.jpeg
[color=#400000:2dasnjxb]"Wakefields Sporting Crusader"[/color:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#FF0000:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Stadium for Wakefield campaign, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://www.swag-online.co.uk[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#0000FF:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Supporters Trust, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://wakefield.rlfans.com[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15993.jpeg



Quote: bren2k "Adeybull is a loquacious apologist for whichever regime happens to be in situ at the time - until they go pop - at which point he comes over all 'I knew that was going to happen' and tries to deflect any wrongdoing onto people who can't respond. This time around the enemy is OK, and he's busy convincing everyone that since he's the only creditor who'll lose out, he deserves everything he gets and the Bulls should not suffer any further penalty.'"


I don't know what that means - but I think I like it! icon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star7160No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
59880_1480501182.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59880.jpg



Posted this on the VT as well.

Bradford did try to cut their cloth . A lot of wage cuts from top to bottom, redundencies, reduced hours. We lost around 4 of our best players and few others. Yes Carvell has come in and will be a top earner. But he was signed middle of last year and was told he could leave a long with the rest of the squad. I can't the ones weve brought in been on as much money as the ones who left. We will defintely be spending less than last year! Bradford didn't deliberately go into admin, like I've said previously the new owners said right from the off before Xmas that they needed to cut £400k. They said players could leave if they chose.

Unfortunately thy haven't been able to reach an agreement to purchase the club and the security firm which has 1 of 100 shares in the club called in the admin blokes to get the deal

I still think we Deseve a points deduction but I dont believe we deliberately chose to go into admin to wipe off Debts.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7423
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
14916_1445291540.jpeg
Twitter...@GINGERWILDCAT:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14916.jpeg



Quote: Bull Mania "Posted this on the VT as well.

Bradford did try to cut their cloth . A lot of wage cuts from top to bottom, redundencies, reduced hours. We lost around 4 of our best players and few others. Yes Carvell has come in and will be a top earner. But he was signed middle of last year and was told he could leave a long with the rest of the squad. I can't the ones weve brought in been on as much money as the ones who left. We will defintely be spending less than last year! Bradford didn't deliberately go into admin, like I've said previously the new owners said right from the off before Xmas that they needed to cut £400k. They said players could leave if they chose.

Unfortunately thy haven't been able to reach an agreement to purchase the club and the security firm which has 1 of 100 shares in the club called in the admin blokes to get the deal

I still think we Deseve a points deduction but I dont believe we deliberately chose to go into admin to wipe off Debts.'"

So did you accidentally go into admin?

RankPostsTeam
International Star7160No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
59880_1480501182.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59880.jpg



Quote: JINJER "]
So did you accidentally go into admin?'"


Nope the security firm who own 1 of 100 shares put us into admin to get a sale done. Not saying we dont deserve a points deduction but just in response to some who say we've done it deliberately and should be relegated with immediate effect. No rules anywhere that is going to happen so unfortunately the one or two frothing at the mouth are going to be disappointed.

Like I say we deserved a points deduction.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3190
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
14887_1622315122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14887.jpg



Quote: Bull Mania "Nope the security firm who own 1 of 100 shares put us into admin to get a sale done. Not saying we dont deserve a points deduction but just in response to some who say we've done it deliberately and should be relegated with immediate effect. No rules anywhere that is going to happen so unfortunately the one or two frothing at the mouth are going to be disappointed.

Like I say we deserved a points deduction.'"


The relegation was the penalty we were going to get if we went into admin, so that's where that comes from , as many on here have said , not a level playing field

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4163
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2021Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
42850_1303637344.jpg
WE ARE WAKEFIELD, WITHOUT THE RICHARDSONS’ WE ARE STRONGER:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_42850.jpg



Quote: Bull Mania "Nope the security firm who own 1 of 100 shares put us into admin to get a sale done. Not saying we dont deserve a points deduction but just in response to some who say we've done it deliberately and should be relegated with immediate effect. No rules anywhere that is going to happen so unfortunately the one or two frothing at the mouth are going to be disappointed.

Like I say we deserved a points deduction.'"


The security firm presumably took the action as the bulls were unable to service the debt? Let's not also forget the HMRC winding up order both clear indicators that the bulls were still living beyond their means and hence admin or releasing some players to free up cash being the obvious options

Also, I can't see how someone who owns 1 of 100 shares can put you in admin. Their pursuit of payment could lead to the directors deciding to go the admin route though

RankPostsTeam
International Star2691No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
fonds blancs/The%20Elbonians.gif
:fonds blancs/The%20Elbonians.gif



Think the reason why a few people are frothing at the mouth probably goes back to the last time our clubs were in admin.
We went into admin before the season started and had our squad decimated.
The Bulls went into admin about 3 or 4 months into the season and turned down a six figure sum from Warrington for Bateman.
I think I read somewhere that our debt was £250,000, whilst the administrator who was in charge of dealings for the Bulls, ran up a fee for overseeing matters of about £170,000.
This where people see the injustice of one rule for one and one rule for another.
Maybe they can see it happening again.

178 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
178 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.451171875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
16m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
16m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
25m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
26m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4010
26m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
28m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
50m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
Recent
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
Recent
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
Recent
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
1m
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
1m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
2m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
2m
Pre Season - 2025
number 6
182
2m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
2m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
2m
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
12
3m
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
313
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
506
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1257
England's Women Demolish The W..
1083
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1320
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1111
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1368
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1912
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2132
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2374
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2183
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2076
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +11,961 ↓-6480,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
16m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
16m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
25m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
26m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4010
26m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
28m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
50m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
Recent
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
Recent
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
Recent
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
1m
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
1m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
2m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
2m
Pre Season - 2025
number 6
182
2m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
2m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
2m
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
12
3m
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
313
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
506
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1257
England's Women Demolish The W..
1083
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1320
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1111
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1368
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1912
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2132
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2374
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2183
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2076
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!