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Quote: newcat "Excuse me! Quite a few of us support both LUFC and Wakey and we do not need or deserve this comment. If Wakey had half the support or commitment of Leeds fans we would be in a lot better place than we are now!'"


You're excused then but I stand by what I said for the ones I saw - an absolute disgrace - just bent on intimidating people!

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Aye, beating Sheffield in The Yorkshire Cup Final!'"

Nice one!! Though funny enough that wasn't what I was thinking about

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Quote: MC_Wildcat "Anybody got Russell Crowe's address ? I think he would relish the challenge of repeating his success with S Sydney and it would be much more fun than buying Leeds United !'"



I know the Comment might be tongue in cheek but Crowe's investment in souths brought success because they had a massive, passionate fanbase who turned up week in week out even though the team was poor pre-Crowe, meaning he just had to focus on the team. Can't really say the same about Wakefield can you.

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Quote: tigerdan "I know the Comment might be tongue in cheek but Crowe's investment in souths brought success because they had a massive, passionate fanbase who turned up week in week out even though the team was poor pre-Crowe, meaning he just had to focus on the team. Can't really say the same about Wakefield can you.'"



... and up pops a Tiger troll. Welcome to the thread! icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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Quote: asmadasa "In addition to the above we got rid of Richard Moore with Ian Kirke coming in and Andy Raleigh with Mikael Simon coming in....

Although lots and lots of injuries there is no way that WTW team should have been beaten by 80 points. I agree with previous posts there is just too much negativity about the quality of the squad and not enough fight from the coach ......

On the earlier point I wonder why Russell Crowe hasn't considered buying a Super League team to go with his NRL team. If he can consider buying Leeds Utd then Trinity would cost him a small fraction....Does someone want to send him a twitter message?
Haha - My mate already did that when Crowe was talking about buying Leeds Utd - sadly got no response.

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Quote: Fordy "Haha - My mate already did that when Crowe was talking about buying Leeds Utd - sadly got no response.'"


Try again....tell him he can re-name us Wakefield Trinity Rabbitohs if he wants icon_wink.gif

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I've tweeted him several times recently, but I am just one person, it would take lots for him to even take notice and he is also busy with his new movie at the moment

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I have stuck with Trinity through thin and thinner and have, generally, been supportive and positive about our plight.
Having just read James Webster's comments in the rugby league paper about concentrating our effort on the 8's and, basically, surrendering the next 13 rounds - I am incensed.
Despite all our past woes, I can barely remember a moment where I felt the team had 'given up' - with the possible exception of our record defeat against Cas - when the player's weren't being paid. Perhaps Mr Carter should have refused to pay the lazy so and so's on Saturday - because no team in Super League with any sort of pride, passion or heart - should be losing 80-0 - that's EIGHTY - NIL!
I have bought a season ticker religiously for years - even though I live a 150 mile round trip away from Wakefield. If we have given up on 13 rounds that I've invested in - any chance of a refund Mr. Carter? I mean, I'll come back and watch us humiliate ourselves against lower league opposition in August - but I just can't be bothered NOW, you know, when it doesn't count and we've nothing to play for.
Or better still - can you explain why I was sold a season ticket for 11 home games - when we've actually only been serious about playing in 4?
James Webster should apologise to the fans for his attitude and his teams performances - they are, quite simply, unacceptable. He aired these views before the season even started - and it's no good keep saying 'I don't want to make an excuse about the injuries - but....@ because you are actually making an excuse about the injuries.
Wakefield have always fought above their weight, have always managed to regroup in adversity and get our way out of tight situations - if we have a coach who cannot do that, who would rather roll over and submit until the wind blows fairer - then we have not got a coach that I can support.
The players should also take a long hard luck at themselves - the performances in our last 4 games have been a disgrace and a mockery to the word 'professionalism'.
I will be there on Friday, as usual, but if we put the same effort in as recently and have the same post match defeatist bull from our coach - then I will not be attending on a regular basis until said coach is GONE.
Wakefield fans - stop singing 'WTID' at matches - they have already died, it was self inflicted and the medic who should be saving them has washed his hands of it.
Ashamed and angry at what this club is becoming!

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Quote: benny the ball "I have stuck with Trinity through thin and thinner and have, generally, been supportive and positive about our plight.
Having just read James Webster's comments in the rugby league paper about concentrating our effort on the 8's and, basically, surrendering the next 13 rounds - I am incensed.
Despite all our past woes, I can barely remember a moment where I felt the team had 'given up' - with the possible exception of our record defeat against Cas - when the player's weren't being paid. Perhaps Mr Carter should have refused to pay the lazy so and so's on Saturday - because no team in Super League with any sort of pride, passion or heart - should be losing 80-0 - that's EIGHTY - NIL!
I have bought a season ticker religiously for years - even though I live a 150 mile round trip away from Wakefield. If we have given up on 13 rounds that I've invested in - any chance of a refund Mr. Carter? I mean, I'll come back and watch us humiliate ourselves against lower league opposition in August - but I just can't be bothered NOW, you know, when it doesn't count and we've nothing to play for.
Or better still - can you explain why I was sold a season ticket for 11 home games - when we've actually only been serious about playing in 4?
James Webster should apologise to the fans for his attitude and his teams performances - they are, quite simply, unacceptable. He aired these views before the season even started - and it's no good keep saying 'I don't want to make an excuse about the injuries - but....@ because you are actually making an excuse about the injuries.
Wakefield have always fought above their weight, have always managed to regroup in adversity and get our way out of tight situations - if we have a coach who cannot do that, who would rather roll over and submit until the wind blows fairer - then we have not got a coach that I can support.
The players should also take a long hard luck at themselves - the performances in our last 4 games have been a disgrace and a mockery to the word 'professionalism'.
I will be there on Friday, as usual, but if we put the same effort in as recently and have the same post match defeatist bull from our coach - then I will not be attending on a regular basis until said coach is GONE.
Wakefield fans - stop singing 'WTID' at matches - they have already died, it was self inflicted and the medic who should be saving them has washed his hands of it.
Ashamed and angry at what this club is becoming!'"


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Quote: benny the ball "I have stuck with Trinity through thin and thinner and have, generally, been supportive and positive about our plight.
Having just read James Webster's comments in the rugby league paper about concentrating our effort on the 8's and, basically, surrendering the next 13 rounds - I am incensed.
Despite all our past woes, I can barely remember a moment where I felt the team had 'given up' - with the possible exception of our record defeat against Cas - when the player's weren't being paid. Perhaps Mr Carter should have refused to pay the lazy so and so's on Saturday - because no team in Super League with any sort of pride, passion or heart - should be losing 80-0 - that's EIGHTY - NIL!
I have bought a season ticker religiously for years - even though I live a 150 mile round trip away from Wakefield. If we have given up on 13 rounds that I've invested in - any chance of a refund Mr. Carter? I mean, I'll come back and watch us humiliate ourselves against lower league opposition in August - but I just can't be bothered NOW, you know, when it doesn't count and we've nothing to play for.
Or better still - can you explain why I was sold a season ticket for 11 home games - when we've actually only been serious about playing in 4?
James Webster should apologise to the fans for his attitude and his teams performances - they are, quite simply, unacceptable. He aired these views before the season even started - and it's no good keep saying 'I don't want to make an excuse about the injuries - but....@ because you are actually making an excuse about the injuries.
Wakefield have always fought above their weight, have always managed to regroup in adversity and get our way out of tight situations - if we have a coach who cannot do that, who would rather roll over and submit until the wind blows fairer - then we have not got a coach that I can support.
The players should also take a long hard luck at themselves - the performances in our last 4 games have been a disgrace and a mockery to the word 'professionalism'.
I will be there on Friday, as usual, but if we put the same effort in as recently and have the same post match defeatist bull from our coach - then I will not be attending on a regular basis until said coach is GONE.
Wakefield fans - stop singing 'WTID' at matches - they have already died, it was self inflicted and the medic who should be saving them has washed his hands of it.
Ashamed and angry at what this club is becoming!'"

Well said that man, agree with every word of that post.

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Quote: benny the ball "I have stuck with Trinity through thin and thinner and have, generally, been supportive and positive about our plight.
Having just read James Webster's comments in the rugby league paper about concentrating our effort on the 8's and, basically, surrendering the next 13 rounds - I am incensed.
Despite all our past woes, I can barely remember a moment where I felt the team had 'given up' - with the possible exception of our record defeat against Cas - when the player's weren't being paid. Perhaps Mr Carter should have refused to pay the lazy so and so's on Saturday - because no team in Super League with any sort of pride, passion or heart - should be losing 80-0 - that's EIGHTY - NIL!
I have bought a season ticker religiously for years - even though I live a 150 mile round trip away from Wakefield. If we have given up on 13 rounds that I've invested in - any chance of a refund Mr. Carter? I mean, I'll come back and watch us humiliate ourselves against lower league opposition in August - but I just can't be bothered NOW, you know, when it doesn't count and we've nothing to play for.
Or better still - can you explain why I was sold a season ticket for 11 home games - when we've actually only been serious about playing in 4?
James Webster should apologise to the fans for his attitude and his teams performances - they are, quite simply, unacceptable. He aired these views before the season even started - and it's no good keep saying 'I don't want to make an excuse about the injuries - but....@ because you are actually making an excuse about the injuries.
Wakefield have always fought above their weight, have always managed to regroup in adversity and get our way out of tight situations - if we have a coach who cannot do that, who would rather roll over and submit until the wind blows fairer - then we have not got a coach that I can support.
The players should also take a long hard luck at themselves - the performances in our last 4 games have been a disgrace and a mockery to the word 'professionalism'.
I will be there on Friday, as usual, but if we put the same effort in as recently and have the same post match defeatist bull from our coach - then I will not be attending on a regular basis until said coach is GONE.
Wakefield fans - stop singing 'WTID' at matches - they have already died, it was self inflicted and the medic who should be saving them has washed his hands of it.
Ashamed and angry at what this club is becoming!'"



Sorry to be the bringer of anti-doom but you (and many others) are incenced over something that is just not true.

Webster has not said in anyof the articles or interviews I have seen, that he is not concentrating on the first 23 rounds.
What he says is "maybe we make a decision now to be the first team to get rid of the motto every minute matters and wait for round 24 and try and get our team nice and fit....."
He says that in response to questions of why we are performing so bad.
He doesn't say it as a statement, he says it as a shrug of the shoulders comment.

He hasn't done anything to indicate to me that he wants to throw the games from now on. He's actually doing the opposite. He could easily have rested players against Warrington and Leeds as we were clearly not going to win but he didn't. He put out the best team he could.......even though they got a tonking.

So by all means moan about his innept interview skills and PR skills; and even his game tactics as they are clearly in question, but don't use this interview as the "that's it I'm out of here" excuse.
Either turn up and support or don't. It's completely your choice. (I didn't go to Warrington so I made that choice but I'll be back again).
In my opinion, the players and I'm certain the coach are doing it tough. Confidence and fitness is low. (And in some cases skill levels are low)
They are not avoiding games, they are just not performing in games. Big difference.

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perhaps - if he didn't come across as defeatist, he wouldn't be viewed as defeatist. I don't need you to tell me that it's my choice to attend or not - I am quite capable of making that distinction myself. If you think an 80 point defeat is 'doing it tough' I would disagree - not enough effort was evident to deem it 'doing it tough' - if anything they were getting the rest you seem to feel they deserve. A 'shrug of the shoulder' comment you say - as in 'not really bothered, I don't know, why bother asking me?' - another interpretation. I have seen nothing from this coach that suggests we have the right man in charge. You will, no doubt, ask me 'if not him - who?' and, to be honest, I don't know - but another option can certainly be no worse.
I have NEVER been one to scream for a coaches head - because, generally, I have a lot of sympathy for their predicament - but James Webster is not putting out the right message about how we are going to get out of this, or what the fans can find to have faith and feel enthusiastic - that must also rub off on the players - and then it's an ever decreasing circle of 'doom' as you put it.
I expect a coach to be positive, to give out positive messages and vibes, to CARE - and I don't see or hear any of that coming from our coach.
We disagree - fine - I'm a big boy - I'm also not stupid - so please stop trying to preach to me - I have worn that t-shirt - it no longer fits mate icon_wink.gif

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Cracking post couldn't agree more!

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Quote: benny the ball "I have stuck with Trinity through thin and thinner and have, generally, been supportive and positive about our plight.
Having just read James Webster's comments in the rugby league paper about concentrating our effort on the 8's and, basically, surrendering the next 13 rounds - I am incensed.
Despite all our past woes, I can barely remember a moment where I felt the team had 'given up' - with the possible exception of our record defeat against Cas - when the player's weren't being paid. Perhaps Mr Carter should have refused to pay the lazy so and so's on Saturday - because no team in Super League with any sort of pride, passion or heart - should be losing 80-0 - that's EIGHTY - NIL!
I have bought a season ticker religiously for years - even though I live a 150 mile round trip away from Wakefield. If we have given up on 13 rounds that I've invested in - any chance of a refund Mr. Carter? I mean, I'll come back and watch us humiliate ourselves against lower league opposition in August - but I just can't be bothered NOW, you know, when it doesn't count and we've nothing to play for.
Or better still - can you explain why I was sold a season ticket for 11 home games - when we've actually only been serious about playing in 4?
James Webster should apologise to the fans for his attitude and his teams performances - they are, quite simply, unacceptable. He aired these views before the season even started - and it's no good keep saying 'I don't want to make an excuse about the injuries - but....@ because you are actually making an excuse about the injuries.
Wakefield have always fought above their weight, have always managed to regroup in adversity and get our way out of tight situations - if we have a coach who cannot do that, who would rather roll over and submit until the wind blows fairer - then we have not got a coach that I can support.
The players should also take a long hard luck at themselves - the performances in our last 4 games have been a disgrace and a mockery to the word 'professionalism'.
I will be there on Friday, as usual, but if we put the same effort in as recently and have the same post match defeatist bull from our coach - then I will not be attending on a regular basis until said coach is GONE.
Wakefield fans - stop singing 'WTID' at matches - they have already died, it was self inflicted and the medic who should be saving them has washed his hands of it.
Ashamed and angry at what this club is becoming!'"


I meant this one!

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Quote: benny the ball "perhaps - if he didn't come across as defeatist, he wouldn't be viewed as defeatist. I don't need you to tell me that it's my choice to attend or not - I am quite capable of making that distinction myself. If you think an 80 point defeat is 'doing it tough' I would disagree - not enough effort was evident to deem it 'doing it tough' - if anything they were getting the rest you seem to feel they deserve. A 'shrug of the shoulder' comment you say - as in 'not really bothered, I don't know, why bother asking me?' - another interpretation. I have seen nothing from this coach that suggests we have the right man in charge. You will, no doubt, ask me 'if not him - who?' and, to be honest, I don't know - but another option can certainly be no worse.
I have NEVER been one to scream for a coaches head - because, generally, I have a lot of sympathy for their predicament - but James Webster is not putting out the right message about how we are going to get out of this, or what the fans can find to have faith and feel enthusiastic - that must also rub off on the players - and then it's an ever decreasing circle of 'doom' as you put it.
I expect a coach to be positive, to give out positive messages and vibes, to CARE - and I don't see or hear any of that coming from our coach.
We disagree - fine - I'm a big boy - I'm also not stupid - so please stop trying to preach to me - I have worn that t-shirt - it no longer fits mate
We are not disagreeing at all.
I agree with all the things you say above, apart from the fact that Webster has said and is intending to give up.

He isn't positive - I agree
Is he technically any good? - I've seen good signs this season....but a lot more bad.
It remains to be seen whether anything will get better before or after round 24.

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15:00
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15:00
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       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
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Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
17:30
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Salford
 Sun 14th Jul
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
Wire W
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LeedsW
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14:00
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Hunslet
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BarrowW
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Featherstone
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LondonB-Castleford
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17:30
WiganW-St.HelensW
SL
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Sat 13th Jul
SL
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Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
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Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
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Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
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Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
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Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
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MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Thu 11th Jul
NRL 19 Dolphins36-28Souths
SL 17 Warrington30-18Leeds
Sun 7th Jul
NRL 18 Sydney42-12St.George
NRL 18 Canberra12-16Newcastle
SL 16 Salford22-20Hull FC
CH 14 Dewsbury16-20Doncaster
CH 14 Featherstone66-0Whitehaven
CH 14 Swinton24-12Widnes
CH 14 Wakefield34-12Batley
CH 14 York54-12Barrow
L1 14 Newcastle0-44Workington
L1 14 Crusaders18-32Midlands
L1 14 Keighley20-20Rochdale
WSL2024 7 Wire W10-32Hudds W
WSL2024 7 York V44-0BarrowW
Sat 6th Jul
NRL 18 Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
NRL 18 Wests28-40Melbourne
NRL 18 NQL Cowboys20-22Manly
SL 16 Hull KR14-16Catalans
SL 16 Leeds17-16LondonB
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 15 427 170 257 26
Warrington 17 436 231 205 24
St.Helens 16 429 170 259 22
Hull KR 16 397 217 180 22
Salford 16 317 308 9 22
Catalans 16 304 234 70 20
 
Leeds 17 309 316 -7 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 16 246 435 -189 9
Hull FC 16 218 496 -278 4
LondonB 16 156 615 -459 2
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 14 520 154 366 28
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 14 353 230 123 19
Toulouse 13 344 186 158 17
Widnes 14 327 269 58 15
Featherstone 14 396 283 113 14
 
Doncaster 14 257 341 -84 13
York 15 339 305 34 12
Batley 14 217 320 -103 12
Swinton 14 284 344 -60 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Whitehaven 14 266 424 -158 10
Barrow 13 215 393 -178 10
Dewsbury 15 184 439 -255 2
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