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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "“I have no more wish than to give credit to the supporter groups for staying with this project and it’s the least they deserve. That’s why I have decided to invite two representatives from the supporters group to join the new Trust."
I'd like to know who the "lucky" couple are?'"
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| [del[/del Quote: TrinityIHC "
No one involved in the Trust is doing this for credit or kudos and if the Council and Sir Rodney Walker were able to pull this off then we would be perfectly happy for them to be carried shoulder high around the streets of Wakefield to the adoration of the people of Wakefield.
It's not about credit it's about justice for the people of Wakefield.
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| Why does it say if we can purswaid WT to become anchor tenants.Do we need purswaiding.   |
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| Quote: AKA kellyseye "Why does it say if we can purswaid WT to become anchor tenants.Do we need purswaiding. ![]()
Thats one for Chris and Michael but I guess it all comes down to the terms of the tenancy which as far as I am aware have not been discussed with the Club.
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| Quote: AKA kellyseye "Why does it say if we can purswaid WT to become anchor tenants.Do we need purswaiding. ![]()
Depending on a number of factors:
• Location
• Rent
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• Other involved parties
We may very well need persuading.
On the other hand, it could be perfect and our holy grail.
I guess time will tell.
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| oh ffsake...
Quote: TRB "Without going in to too many details, remember thisA Community Stadium - probably now likely to be 8-10k capacity with all amenities - needs to be built.
It was to be handed to the W&DCT, with the land to be retained by the developer but leased on a 'peppercorn' rent.
The Trust would then rent the whole facility on a full maintenance and repair lease to the club, with caveats relating to the use of the facility by the wider community (otherwise we would need an operating company with management etc, which the club can cover).
Any Stadium deal needs to allow the club - the anchor tennant - to generate revenues from it, through rentals, advertising, naming rights, operations, beer and catering revenues.
Without any of the above, the prospect of a successful deal is nil!'"
So MC has to knock back the new Stadium offer after the conditions under which it is to be built and run are altered beyond the financial viability originally agreed.
This makes Rod happy, he doesn't have to deliver the stadium that the Bermuda triangle didn't want to build in the first place and conveniently shifts the blame for that to WT's doorstep.
Full WExpress back page spread.......Rod throws his arms in the air and say's, I tried my best, its all Trinity's fault the stadium won't be built.
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So MC has to knock back the new Stadium offer after the conditions under which it is to be built and run are altered beyond the financial viability originally agreed.
This makes Rod happy, he doesn't have to deliver the stadium that the Bermuda triangle didn't want to build in the first place and conveniently shifts the blame for that to WT's doorstep.
Full WExpress back page spread.......Rod throws his arms in the air and say's, I tried my best, its all Trinity's fault the stadium won't be built.
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Or he agrees to the altered terms, gets a stadium built in the community, when it's built says that the rental agreement is too high and is unfeasible then plays the same game he's already playing with Belle Vue to get the rent lower. The difference would be that Yorkcourt would be a bit more pliable as they'd have just spent several million building a stadium so anything would be better than nothing for them.
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| Quote: Egg Banjo "Or he agrees to the altered terms.....'"
You're assuming the terms will be viable on some level.
If you didn't want to build it, what would you do ? |
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| Quote: Egg Banjo "Or he agrees to the altered terms, gets a stadium built in the community, when it's built says that the rental agreement is too high and is unfeasible then plays the same game he's already playing with Belle Vue to get the rent lower. The difference would be that Yorkcourt would be a bit more pliable as they'd have just spent several million building a stadium so anything would be better than nothing for them.'"
Depends how long the lease would be signed for and whether there would be a break clause at any point. |
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So MC has to knock back the new Stadium offer after the conditions under which it is to be built and run are altered beyond the financial viability originally agreed.
This makes Rod happy, he doesn't have to deliver the stadium that the Bermuda triangle didn't want to build in the first place and conveniently shifts the blame for that to WT's doorstep.
Full WExpress back page spread.......Rod throws his arms in the air and say's, I tried my best, its all Trinity's fault the stadium won't be built.
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For what it's worth (nothing), that's how I imagine it playing out too.
This may not be the case of course. Until we hear from our intrepid leader, we won't know which way the wind is blowing.
All we have at the moment are hearsay and conjecture. But then as Aristotle postulated, nature abhors a vacuum.
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| Quote: Upanunder "oh ffsake...
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So MC has to knock back the new Stadium offer after the conditions under which it is to be built and run are altered beyond the financial viability originally agreed.
This makes Rod happy, he doesn't have to deliver the stadium that the Bermuda triangle didn't want to build in the first place and conveniently shifts the blame for that to WT's doorstep.
Full WExpress back page spread.......Rod throws his arms in the air and say's, I tried my best, its all Trinity's fault the stadium won't be built.
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I just can't see why he would set up a new Trust just so he can shift the blame to the club. He's had a long involvement with the club and presumably wants to see a stadium built. The issue is to what extent he benefits, and to what extent the club suffers a detriment, due to the establishment of a new Trust.
I think this is just pessimism filling a vacuum. I don't think MC would allow the club to be shafted. He's shown that a few times in recent years. It might be that the terms aren't quite as great, but it has to be better than the many alternatives.
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| Quote: Egg Banjo "Or he agrees to the altered terms, gets a stadium built in the community, when it's built says that the rental agreement is too high and is unfeasible then plays the same game he's already playing with Belle Vue to get the rent lower. The difference would be that Yorkcourt would be a bit more pliable as they'd have just spent several million building a stadium so anything would be better than nothing for them.'"
They will not build it until terms are agreed. |
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| Quote: jakeyg95 "Looking at it from another angle, I wonder whether if we have a Labour government in the next couple of years (reasonable chance of it happening) we could try and get a couple of million from Corbyn's £250 billion infrastructure investment fund. Would only be a drop in the ocean from something that big, would solve a long standing problem and gain Labour some very goodwill in what are now a couple of marginal constituencies and investing in community sports facilities to tackle things like child obesity would be an excellent use of those funds IMO.'"
That would e great if that 250 billion existed anywhere other than Corbyns imagination. Total fantasy. |
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