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Quote: cocker "It must be me !!! It was all just so unnecessary .. 4/5 secs on the clock ! A game we had to win … a team struggling to find form … a team struggling to field a settled side !!! It cost us the game … he’d been enjoying the “ oh David Fifita “ chants not long before he did this … they must have still been whizzing round his head !!'"

I don’t disagree that it was a brain fart of the highest order. But it doesn’t have to follow that we fall apart spectacularly like we did. The fact that happened is down to his 12 mates on the field.

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Quote: PopTart "I think it exactly did happen. We are panicking and going away from game plan with silly plays rather than calmly continuing what worked well.
Yesterday is a perfect example.

But you don't need to argue with me. I was just explaining what Willie meant as you obviously misunderstood.'"


What's all this talk about "Game Plan"? I don't think we have any variations in a game plan. We play the same boring, unadventurous rugby whether it's against Saints or Tolouse. How often do we put a player into space? Why do we always turn the ball back inside in the middle of the field to the point where we've just received the damn thing from. Why can't we create overlaps; the opposition always have us marked man for man? Why do we always give the opposition ten meters at the play the ball? Game plan?? We don't know the meaning of the words

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Quote: Redscat "What's all this talk about "Game Plan"? I don't think we have any variations in a game plan. We play the same boring, unadventurous rugby whether it's against Saints or Tolouse. How often do we put a player into space? Why do we always turn the ball back inside in the middle of the field to the point where we've just received the damn thing from. Why can't we create overlaps; the opposition always have us marked man for man? Why do we always give the opposition ten meters at the play the ball? Game plan?? We don't know the meaning of the words'"

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Why are posters blaming Fifita he did something silly but the blame lies firmly at the feet of Robert Hicks because no way was that a yellow card. Penalty yes but yellow card never

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Quote: Redscat "What's all this talk about "Game Plan"? I don't think we have any variations in a game plan. We play the same boring, unadventurous rugby whether it's against Saints or Tolouse. How often do we put a player into space? Why do we always turn the ball back inside in the middle of the field to the point where we've just received the damn thing from. Why can't we create overlaps; the opposition always have us marked man for man? Why do we always give the opposition ten meters at the play the ball? Game plan?? We don't know the meaning of the words'"


Well this none game plan was working until Big Dave got sent off.
And Miller put Dave through a gap for his try.

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Quote: Teltry "Why are posters blaming Fifita he did something silly but the blame lies firmly at the feet of Robert Hicks because no way was that a yellow card. Penalty yes but yellow card never'"

Sorry, but I disagree....you could see Dave looking at the clock and he made the conscious decision to lie on...if he had made an effort after the "six-again" call then fair enough, but he continued to lie on and I knew then that he was going in the bin...right decision for me (unfortunately).

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Quote: PopTart "Well this none game plan was working until Big Dave got sent off.
And Miller put Dave through a gap for his try.'"


We're all entitled to our opinions because we view the problems of our great club differently BUT it is a fact PT that we seriously lack ideas in attack.
I've given Miller all the tolerance that I can over the years. I've constantly said he has all the attributes to be a top class SO but he's hit and miss and lacks consistency. He won't back himself and seldom makes a break. Come to think of it he's not on his own.
Our rugby style is not worthy of SL. coaching or quality of players? I don't know but the first thing I'd instill in my players is that a match lasts for 80 minutes not 40. I'd then tell them if you stand and wait at the PTB for an 18 stone forward to gain momentum and run at you, he's going to win not you!
I wish we had a Brad Drew or Danny Brough again because I'm more likely to make a break for the exit than our present 'playmakers' breaking through the opposition lines. I watched some dross in the1980's but this lot is coming close to that.

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Spot on 1315...nail, head, hit icon_thumb.gif

Has anyone heard any more on our 3rd predicted signing as I'm hoping it could be a sorely-needed play-maker icon_razz.gifRAY:

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Quote: FIL "Spot on 1315...nail, head, hit
haha FIL done exactly that before now!

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There we’re a fair few reasons we lost that 2nd half

There’s too many to list but the main three are

We are clueless without Dave on the pitch

And we have for some reason developed no strike combos (I thought we had when batch moved to a centre with Tanginoa but sadly we canned that partnership)

I can only imagine houles absolutely tore a strip from his players at half time
They barely touched our right edge
As soon as they woke up and realised it was being defended by a young lad and a part time union player they destroyed us

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "I did think Hall's error was a lot more expensive than most have commented. Drop on the ball and calm things down and wind the clock down with a steady set of six instead of going for a glory play.'"


He did it twice, his worst game for us and showed his inexperience. I'll forgive him but he was a costly player on Saturday.

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First up, Fifita is probably our most important player.
Therefore, him getting binned hurt us massively, no question.

Should he be blamed for the headless chicken shambles that followed when he was off the field, no.
However, his sin binning certainly allowed Toulouse back into a game where we just about had control and a 20 - 4 lead ??

We probably could have got back on top and won, had Butler not also ben sent to the bin

It's a cruel game and Toulouse exploited their advantage (understatement).

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Quote: 1315trinity "We're all entitled to our opinions because we view the problems of our great club differently BUT it is a fact PT that we seriously lack ideas in attack.
I've given Miller all the tolerance that I can over the years. I've constantly said he has all the attributes to be a top class SO but he's hit and miss and lacks consistency. He won't back himself and seldom makes a break. Come to think of it he's not on his own.
Our rugby style is not worthy of SL. coaching or quality of players? I don't know but the first thing I'd instill in my players is that a match lasts for 80 minutes not 40. I'd then tell them if you stand and wait at the PTB for an 18 stone forward to gain momentum and run at you, he's going to win not you!
I wish we had a Brad Drew or Danny Brough again because I'm more likely to make a break for the exit tha
n our present 'playmakers' breaking through the opposition lines. I watched some dross in the1980's but this lot is coming close to that.'"


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Quote: 1315trinity "We're all entitled to our opinions because we view the problems of our great club differently BUT it is a fact PT that we seriously lack ideas in attack.
I've given Miller all the tolerance that I can over the years. I've constantly said he has all the attributes to be a top class SO but he's hit and miss and lacks consistency. He won't back himself and seldom makes a break. Come to think of it he's not on his own.
Our rugby style is not worthy of SL. coaching or quality of players? I don't know but the first thing I'd instill in my players is that a match lasts for 80 minutes not 40. I'd then tell them if you stand and wait at the PTB for an 18 stone forward to gain momentum and run at you, he's going to win not you!
I wish we had a Brad Drew or Danny Brough again because I'm more likely to make a break for the exit than our present 'playmakers' breaking through the opposition lines. I watched some dross in the1980's but this lot is coming close to that.'"


I understand what you are saying but my point was in answer to us having a game plan. We clearly don't go out to 'throw it around'. The game plan was working in first half. What went wrong was nothing to do with that.

Our attack, as you say, is blunt more often than not but for me its execution.
When Lomax gets a ball from Roby, it's right in his chest at speed. Miller has to jump to get it or pick up at his feet. No wonder we can't get the ball to the wings. And that's right across the team.

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