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Quote: alegend "Trinityhomeandaway Jowit as fought and got the number one shirt Walker was one of Mr Chester panic buys last season ,Chester as said that Battye is playing against Wigan .And K Wood is the only hooker with any idea how to move us forward .I've been acused of talking rubbish on hear ,but I think I can hand the mantle over to you'"


I already said Wood would have played
Walker is going to play fullback in front of jowit in my opinion (time will tell) and no matter what you think about Battye he is nearly 30 years old and has hardly played any top flight rugby,there is a reason for that and also why he hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "I already said Wood would have played
Walker is going to play fullback in front of jowit in my opinion (time will tell) and no matter what you think about Battye he is nearly 30 years old and has hardly played any top flight rugby,there is a reason for that and also why he hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt'"


I'll take that bet re Max over Walker all day long.
If you look at your logic about Batts not getting the 8 or 10 shirt, then by [iyour[/i logic, Walker should have the No.1 jersey??? icon_rolleyes.gif
Also, was Batts signed after the squad numbers were released?

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "I already said Wood would have played
Walker is going to play fullback in front of jowit in my opinion (time will tell) and no matter what you think about Battye he is nearly 30 years old and has hardly played any top flight rugby,there is a reason for that and also why he hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt'"

You ask why Battye hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt, but say that Walker will play in front of Jowitt who incidentally has been given the number 1 shirt, not sure where your logic is there chief, also not sure what Battye's age has to do with it, isn't he the youngest recognised prop at the club?, and also one last point, wasn't the shirt numbers given out before he signed anyway, and if that was the case you wouldn't expect the coach to relieve one of the present incumbent of the jerseys' surely.

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Quote: happyjack "You ask why Battye hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt, but say that Walker will play in front of Jowitt who incidentally has been given the number 1 shirt, not sure where your logic is there chief, also not sure what Battye's age has to do with it, isn't he the youngest recognised prop at the club?, and also one last point, wasn't the shirt numbers given out before he signed anyway, and if that was the case you wouldn't expect the coach to relieve one of the present incumbent of the jerseys' surely.'"


Yes I believe walker will play infront of Jowitt thats my opinion
Battye's age has lots to do with it,why do you think he is nearly 30 and nobody has previously come in for him to play top flight rugby ?
Whilst he is a hard worker he is never going to change or win you a game,championship quality at best but I hope he proves me wrong (as well as all the other coachs who didn't come in for him previous)
Enjoy your week

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Whilst we were missing 3 players as you say possibly on wood would make the starting 13 (who are you dropping for Jowett and Battye)
Whilst jowit is ok hes not getting in front of Walker and Battle whlust he gives 100% hes a championship prop at best

Leeds startimg team would have been something like this i guess

1 Jack Walker
2 Tom Briscoe
3 Harry Newman
4 Konrad Hurrel
5 Ash Handley
6 Robert Lui
7 Luke Gale
8 Oledski
9 Leeming
10 Prior
11 Alex Mellor
12 Ryse Martin
13 Tevano

Whilst their pack is/was probably their strongest they will get this year (unless they sign)
They had 5 out of 7 backs missing that would have 100% started.
To lose your superstar fullback,both centres,last seasons leading try scorer and your stand off obliterated their team
With this information Leeds had 40% of there strongest team missing and 72% of their backs missing
What we had possibly 1 player missing that would have started
Makes a huge difference,with there backs in place we definitely don't get the chances out wide like we did and under so much more pressure defensively against there strike players'"


Good attempt at fitting your narrative - i asked for the first 17,not first 13.
Jowitt 100% before Walker - Hampshire would be full back before Walker.
Battye would have been in 17 instead of Tangata.
K Wood would have been in ahead of J Wood.

Even though you only decided to use the first 13 - still no where near a virtual 2nd string Leeds team.

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Quote: TURFEDOUT "Good attempt at fitting your narrative - i asked for the first 17,not first 13.
Jowitt 100% before Walker - Hampshire would be full back before Walker.
Battye would have been in 17 instead of Tangata.
K Wood would have been in ahead of J Wood.

Even though you only decided to use the first 13 - still no where near a virtual 2nd string Leeds team.'"


What amazes me is how these posters emerge after one loss, never to be seen again, then another one appears spouting the same old nonsense and we are supposed to not be able to work out what they are up to. It's insulting, to be honest, my grandson could probably spot the pattern and the agenda.

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Quote: TURFEDOUT "Good attempt at fitting your narrative - i asked for the first 17,not first 13.
Jowitt 100% before Walker - Hampshire would be full back before Walker.
Battye would have been in 17 instead of Tangata.
K Wood would have been in ahead of J Wood.

Even though you only decided to use the first 13 - still no where near a virtual 2nd string Leeds team.'"


Dont need anything to fit my "narrative" 5 out of your starting 7 backs missing surely in anybody books would be classed as 2nd string

Just to weigh up your argument are you saying that if we had Jowit missing, Johnstone missing,tupou missing,Lyne missing and Miller missing you wouldn't class that as a 2nd string waky side ?

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "I already said Wood would have played
Walker is going to play fullback in front of jowit in my opinion (time will tell) and no matter what you think about Battye he is nearly 30 years old and has hardly played any top flight rugby,there is a reason for that and also why he hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt'"


Alex walker will not start ahead of max or even hampshire unless there is a half back injury issues he is clearly 3rd choice full back.the aquad numbers where issued before eddie arrived and i would say eddie will start more than not fit but its just as important for you sub props to be as good as your starting.as for his age and experience did you not see how well he played for london when in sl and how well he played for us last season and as for his age for a prop hes around the prime age for most props

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Quote: Luppylad "Alex walker will not start ahead of max or even hampshire unless there is a half back injury issues he is clearly 3rd choice full back.the aquad numbers where issued before eddie arrived and i would say eddie will start more than not fit but its just as important for you sub props to be as good as your starting.as for his age and experience did you not see how well he played for london when in sl and how well he played for us last season and as for his age for a prop hes around the prime age for most props'"


Yes I did see how he played for London in super league and he was "average" in a very poor London side that got relegated.
I also saw how he played for us last year and as stated before he is 100% but again was average in what can only be described as a poor team/season again
Thats me out on this matter now as you know my opinions.

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Yes I believe walker will play infront of Jowitt thats my opinion
Battye's age has lots to do with it,why do you think he is nearly 30 and nobody has previously come in for him to play top flight rugby ?
Whilst he is a hard worker he is never going to change or win you a game,championship quality at best but I hope he proves me wrong (as well as all the other coachs who didn't come in for him previous)
Enjoy your week'"

Nice Sidestep, and yes I will enjoy my week, considerably more than you will I'm sure, and thanks for explaining your thoughts' on the matter in great detail icon_lol.gif

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Quote: vastman "What amazes me is how these posters emerge after one loss, never to be seen again, then another one appears spouting the same old nonsense and we are supposed to not be able to work out what they are up to. It's insulting, to be honest, my grandson could probably spot the pattern and the agenda.'"

Quote: vastman "Jog on Lebron. It’s getting quite boring now.'"

Are you saying Wilzay is your grandson? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: vastman "What amazes me is how these posters emerge after one loss, never to be seen again, then another one appears spouting the same old nonsense and we are supposed to not be able to work out what they are up to. It's insulting, to be honest, my grandson could probably spot the pattern and the agenda.'"


So you are saying that it wasn't a very weak/second string Leeds team
As stated previous if we had
Jowit,Johnstone,Tupou,Lyne and Miller all missing you wouldn't call it a weak side or a 2nd string ?

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Quote: Brightside "Thanks for your input, old lad.
Seems the folks who compile the Super League stats might agree with me ..

Fifita
Nowt wrong with my eyesight lad stats don't mean owt to me and I can count too not like the lads your quoting, and come on fifita can't run 100 MTRS unopposed

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Quote: try scorer "Nowt wrong with my eyesight lad stats don't mean owt to me and I can count too not like the lads your quoting, and come on fifita can't run 100 MTRS unopposed'"


You're entitled to your opinion .. however misguided that might be... old boy.

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I thought we played okay and was quite optimistic following it. I wasn't surprised by the result though because we rarely seemed to be in the Leeds half. Our efforts were mainly long range, which shows the other side is dominating the game. Our left edge is very dangerous but other teams will quickly train to snuff that out.

The new strip rule disappointed me, because clearly Leeds had been training to utilise it and we looked like we'd never heard of it.

On the whole, the game could have gone either way and I thought it was a fairly decent performance, but Leeds were the dominant team and deserved to win it.

As for the players, I think we'll go better with either Jowitt or Rocky at full back. Walker was fine but perhaps still a bit green and nervous and looks physically lightweight. Lino? Too early to tell. He has spent a long time as an understudy so was bound to be cautious. Once he gets used to being the focus, we should see the best of him. If we don't, he'll be an understudy to Rocky and that's just how it is.

As for the penalties, tired teams give away penalties. It was a sign of Leeds dominance and a natural consequence.

My main worry about this year is that I think there may be some levelling out of the teams. Salford may be poor in the end, bit of a Dads Army, but Hull KR may go better and Huddersfield should get better. I can see us scrapping it out for tenth. But new ground, new start, etc.

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