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Quote: vastman "Again You are indeed banging your head on a brick wall. RA is teflon coated in some people's minds

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Quote: trin77 "Rubbish tactics, clueless team selections, disgraceful attitude to players some untouchable others scapegoats.
Under Agar we are down. Period.'"

At last someone who has noticed the same as me. All you say is encapsulated in 2 words. Reece Lyne. A player so obviously not SL standard have I rarely seen, yet he gets picked come what may. Frankie Mariano,, not the best player in SL by any means but a very useful player, especially fo a club with limited resources - RA not inteested in giving him an extended run or the same chances or the understanding it sounds he may have needed. Allegedly he had discipline issues; good coaches can manage difficult personalities (Mr Ferguson). There ae many examples. I am depressed we are stuck with him as coach. It is not about the Bradford game per se; that game typified everything that has been wrong with our play for all but about 10 of his 60+ games in charge. Thick, sloppy, stupid, ill-disciplined, disorganised and looking utterly like they had no plan at all except try to score with every play of the ball. Yes, the players have to take their share of the responsibility but, as I have said, the players change, the patterns and play don't. That is the coach for me. I hope they all read ths myself. They need a damn good kick up the backside after Thursday night

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "You are indeed banging your head on a brick wall. RA is teflon coated in some people's minds'"


It's a results business, what do you want from him? He's had 2 seasons, 1 playoff appearance, 1 below par season. Managed to get a decent squad together after losing key men in the off season, including our 2 best props and only creative player. Awful off season to deal with, he deserves at least 10 games.

Besides who would you replace him with?

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Quote: TrinityIHC "It's a results business, what do you want from him? He's had 2 seasons, 1 playoff appearance, 1 below par season. Managed to get a decent squad together after losing key men in the off season, including our 2 best props and only creative player. Awful off season to deal with, he deserves at least 10 games.

Besides who would you replace him with?'"


I think people have slightly missed the point. It's really nothing to do with his actual ability and no one would dny he's had a rough close season. Nor would I deny the football we played mid 2012 was excellent.

However with P&R the whole dynamic has changed and now patient builders and thinkers like Agar are no use to clubs like us. We IMHO need motivators. Sure they will do sod all for the team long term but short term points will make prizes.

It really is that simple and for me far to many people are burying their heads in the sand and kidding themselves. There will be no Crusaders this time, our nine lives are spent.

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Quote: vastman "I think people have slightly missed the point. It's really nothing to do with his actual ability and no one would dny he's had a rough close season. Nor would I deny the football we played mid 2012 was excellent.

However with P&R the whole dynamic has changed and now patient builders and thinkers like Agar are no use to clubs like us. We IMHO need motivators. Sure they will do sod all for the team long term but short term points will make prizes.

It really is that simple and for me far to many people are burying their heads in the sand and kidding themselves. There will be no Crusaders this time, our nine lives are spent.'"


I think we have enough quality in the side to avoid relegation, think that we have a better squad than London & Widnes and are about the same level as Bradford and Cas.

Which "motivators" would you have in mind for the job?

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Talking of motivators, do we ever have past players come in and remind the squad what it means to pull on the Red, Whit & Blue jersey.
I know some teams do this sort of thing before cup finals but, are Wakefield known for such things (no before finals of course, we haven't had too many of those in recent years).

A certain Mr N Fox, could be ideal for giving some inspiration a046.gif

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Quote: vastman "I think people have slightly missed the point. It's really nothing to do with his actual ability and no one would dny he's had a rough close season. Nor would I deny the football we played mid 2012 was excellent.

However with P&R the whole dynamic has changed and now patient builders and thinkers like Agar are no use to clubs like us. We IMHO need motivators. Sure they will do sod all for the team long term but short term points will make prizes.

It really is that simple and for me far to many people are burying their heads in the sand and kidding themselves. There will be no Crusaders this time, our nine lives are spent.'"

We may have Bradford though if don't got an owner, how long would RFL bankroll them ?

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Quote: vastman "I think people have slightly missed the point. It's really nothing to do with his actual ability and no one would dny he's had a rough close season. Nor would I deny the football we played mid 2012 was excellent.

However with P&R the whole dynamic has changed and now patient builders and thinkers like Agar are no use to clubs like us. We IMHO need motivators. Sure they will do sod all for the team long term but short term points will make prizes.

It really is that simple and for me far to many people are burying their heads in the sand and kidding themselves. There will be no Crusaders this time, our nine lives are spent.'"


Thinker! Now that is hilarious. I think i'll send a team out with no game plan or structure whatsoever. I think i'll only play sixteen players. I think ill play people out of position when we have cover. I think ill have players sat on the bench for 70 minutes when players are blowing out of their backsides. I think ill send Mariano to Fev then sign Jon Molloy. If he's a thinker lets put an idiot in charge can't do any worse.

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Quote: vastman "I think people have slightly missed the point. It's really nothing to do with his actual ability and no one would dny he's had a rough close season. Nor would I deny the football we played mid 2012 was excellent.

However with P&R the whole dynamic has changed and now patient builders and thinkers like Agar are no use to clubs like us. We IMHO need motivators. Sure they will do sod all for the team long term but short term points will make prizes.

It really is that simple and for me far to many people are burying their heads in the sand and kidding themselves. There will be no Crusaders this time, our nine lives are spent.'"
so after two games that line says you've given in, or are you trying to do a Mopsey

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Quote: trin77 "I think ill send Mariano to Fev then sign Jon Molloy.'"


This one keeps coming up; to the best of my knowledge, Mariano's departure to Cas was the result of JE's meddling - and not what RA wanted.

As for Molloy - I'm pretty sure he came to us for free, so hardly one to keep bashing Agar with.

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Quote: bren2k "This one keeps coming up; to the best of my knowledge, Mariano's departure to Cas was the result of JE's meddling - and not what RA wanted.

As for Molloy - I'm pretty sure he came to us for free, so hardly one to keep bashing Agar with.'"

Mariano played well for Cas last night...

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Quote: asmadasa "Mariano played well for Cas last night...'"


He did - but it has no bearing on what I said.

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Quote: bren2k "This one keeps coming up; to the best of my knowledge, Mariano's departure to Cas was the result of JE's meddling - and not what RA wanted.

As for Molloy - I'm pretty sure he came to us for free, so hardly one to keep bashing Agar with.'"


Molloy may have come for free but, he will still be taking a wage that could be spent elsewhere ?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Molloy may have come for free but, he will still be taking a wage that could be spent elsewhere ?'"


No - my information was that he was *playing* for free, to rehab himself and try to earn a contract.

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Quote: bren2k "No - my information was that he was *playing* for free, to rehab himself and try to earn a contract.'"

Think your info is wrong. He trained with the team for a couple of weeks early last season prior to signing to prove his fitness, he then signed a permanent deal until the end of this season. Doubt he is on a fortune but given it is an Elston contract it is probably over the odds.

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