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https://www.totalrl.com/mark-applegarth ... -drubbing/

The book stops squarely on Applegarth and the owners for letting this turd show carry on. Say what you want about the players, but they are employees, it is down to the coach to address this dross show. I’d rather watch us get beat 60-0 with a bunch of academy lads actually playing with passion and pride then a lot of these wage stealers currently getting into our team week in week out clearly without competition. We are going down, I’ve come to terms with that. We have no money, we have a mid/top table championship squad, with an inexperienced coach at this level.
https://www.totalrl.com/mark-applegarth ... -drubbing/

The book stops squarely on Applegarth and the owners for letting this turd show carry on. Say what you want about the players, but they are employees, it is down to the coach to address this dross show. I’d rather watch us get beat 60-0 with a bunch of academy lads actually playing with passion and pride then a lot of these wage stealers currently getting into our team week in week out clearly without competition. We are going down, I’ve come to terms with that. We have no money, we have a mid/top table championship squad, with an inexperienced coach at this level.


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Quote: Kettykat "For me only Lino came out of that game with a modicum of respect , the rest should hang their heads in shame . Absolutely clueless in attack and dire in defence, we made leigh look like an NRL team that second half ,with their attacking prowess up against our abysmal defence .'"


Agree re Lino, I’m not a huge fan of his but he is a big step up on the other “halves” we have at the club.

Need to look at Jowitt at 6 when he is fit because our other options are dire.

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Quote: Sacred Cow "Utterly pathetic. The absolute worst performing team i have ever seen in my 40 years watching them, and we've had some stinkers. The whole job lot of them top to bottom can go for me and we start again.

Anybody who defends what we are seeing week in week out needs to seek medical help. It is beyond atrocious.'"

Sadly the imports (with the exception of Lino and Whitbread) are either over the hill burnt out ‘has beens’ or sub standard players who have no heart for the fight and are just going through the motions.

Relegation is probably needed to reset, have a massive clear out, get in an experienced, well respected coach and build up a squad of young talented players from across the U.K..

The money wasted on the imports must be phenomenal…. Tanginoa (sell him now before he leaves for nothing!!), Proctor, Taufua, Langi (all 3 will probably retire at end of season especially the first 2 who are shadows of the players they once were), Atoni (all the tools but the heart the size of a pea), Whitbread (no doubt will get picked up by Cas after 1/5 for next season).. icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: asmadasa "Sadly the imports (with the exception of Lino) are either over the hill burnt out ‘has beens’ or sub standard players who have no heart for the fight and are just going through the motions.

Relegation is probably needed to reset, have a massive clear out, get in an experienced, well respected coach and build up a squad of young talented players from across the U.K..

The money wasted on the imports must be phenomenal…. Tanginoa (sell him now before he leaves for nothing!!), Proctor, Taufua, Langi (all 3 will probably retire at end of season especially the first 2 who are shadows of the players they once were), Atoni (all the tools but the heart the size of a pea), Whitbread (no doubt will get picked up by Cas after 1/5 for next season)..
Good points there, but did you forget the most important change of all. Get a CEO and director of rugby who actually have a clue about the game.

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Well it’s been two hours since FT and no club statement.

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Quote: Willzay "Well it’s been two hours since FT and no club statement.'"

Well for all his short commings at least Mash has faced the press, can't knock him for that.

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Quote: Willzay "Well it’s been two hours since FT and no club statement.'"


What club statement are you expecting.

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Proctor reminds me of the time we signed A Tupou , both had outstanding careers in the NRL but now a shadow of themselves And Atoni would struggle getting a starting spot in the championship. Having said all that I don’t see any replacement making one iota of a difference to a team that has no fire in their bellies longer than the 30 min mark . Special mention must also go to lynne ,boy how his game has gone down hill is nothing short of cataclysmic, as a senior member of our team he should be stepping up to the plate and geeing the team up , instead of walking around like a wet weekend and doing the bare minimum with ball in hand .Oh how we miss Arona and Fifita and dare I say miller , because unfortunately Smith isn’t cutting the mustard in attack and now has a Turnstile defence to add to his CV . All very dispiriting for us fans going forwards , with Wigan and the wires looming , there could possibly be a record score to add to our record nillings if things don’t radically change

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Quote: Pat Bateman "I’d rather watch us get beat 60-0 with a bunch of academy lads actually playing with passion'"


Was it 2011 when the team was made up of pretty much rookies in their early 20s and a few old timers who had a season left in them? That team puts this lot to shame.

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Proctor has zero interest the club. It matters Jack sh*t to him. Final hooter, he came on and talked to a Leigh squad player, then walked off. 20 minutes of crap.
A COMPLETE AND UTTER WASTER.
Atoni, bone idle waster. An embarrassment to himself and the club. More wasted cash.
Langi is a spent force.
Taufua. A slug moves faster. Grim reaper my .
Tanginoa. Who, where, why. What’s the point having him, never plays and only good every Easter.
Whitbread. Losing heart rapidly. Sad to see as he’s a trier.
Lino. It’s all on him, Smith doesn’t get a look in, probably because he’s not up to it therefore cut out Lino, job done.
Then there’s the money on Lineham and Gaskell!
So that’s business management is it?

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Here is my assessment. The team as a whole has no idea how to create and overlap for winger or create a gap for a player to run through. The forwards take the ball standing so are never going to break a tackle. No one is even trying an offload. The defence is OK until they go behind then they give up.Dagger wasn't good enough for KR so he isn't good enough for us. Kershaw just runs sideways so does Lynne. Langi and Tafua try hard but are too slow. Lino is getting no help. Smith is not a superleague halfback. Whitbread and Battye are probably our best forwards. Ashurst Proctor and Pitts need to retire Hoods passing from the play the ball is too slow and Atoni is a complete fraud. He played 10 minutes gave away 2 penalties, dropped the ball and looked like he wasn't interested then got substitued only to return when it was 22-0

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I like Applegarth as a person (or at least how he comes across). He's clearly a nice bloke and he clearly knows his rugby otherwise he wouldn't have been so highly thought of. But I cannot abide by him piacking Atoni and Proctor over other players like Sam Eseh (or even sending Butler on loan for that matter who also had a better pre-season than those two). We bring a player in on loan and don;t play him (Senior) and we also leave Bowes out (who for me is our liveliest hooker and should at least get on the bench). I can't understand some of the selections but there's also a lack of attacking structures. Isn't that the coaches job? Leigh's structures looked so much better. Only other excuse I can give him is how disrupted the spine has been but don't think Gaskell and Jowitt change much.

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Leigh didnt play that well to beat us as soon as they scored our heads went down and game over the second half was merely a training exercise for them apart from lino whitbread kershaw and pitts-who should be made captain straightaway-not just a lack of effort like smiths tackling but no heart unless we get a couple of players in with something to prove like escare or corey norman and play a hooker at hooker ie bowes i cannot see us winning a single match this year weve scored 23 points in 8 games will we score a 100 for the season im almost tempted to see what paddy power has to say on it

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Quote: Alchemist1 "Leigh didnt play that well to beat us as soon as they scored our heads went down and game over the second half was merely a training exercise for them apart from lino whitbread kershaw and pitts-who should be made captain straightaway-not just a lack of effort like smiths tackling but no heart unless we get a couple of players in with something to prove like escare or corey norman and play a hooker at hooker ie bowes i cannot see us winning a single match this year weve scored 23 points in 8 games will we score a 100 for the season im almost tempted to see what paddy power has to say on it'"


Thanks for that!

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Quote: Cokey "Thanks for that!'"

It’s true though. You bombed a couple at least with some sloppy execution, the Briscoe pass & an unnecessary obstruction spring to mind. If you’d have been clinical you could have got 50, which speaks volumes to how poor we are because you are a very handy team but you shouldn’t be that much better.

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