The news is out!!!

Quote: vastman "1

How can it have been a non starter if Caddick made such threats? surely that implies Yorks CC intent.

Quote: vastman "2

So now you are admitting that there was some activity on the part of Wakefield council, which is completely opposite to your first post.

Quote: vastman "3I don't deny some knowledge, I just deny that I have the in depth knowledge on absolutely everything you seem to claim.'"

Which once again contradicts your first post.

Quote: vastman "6I'm not implying anything about what Ted did or didn't do - I leave pure speculation up to you, you're good at it. What I'm suggesting was that without the involvement of YCCC and considering the land values at the time any scheme would have been beyond the cost Trinity alone could afford. That's Trinity the small RL club not Ted the individual. Just how much money do you think the club could muster?'"

Yes you are, you stated that no meeting took place between Ted and the council regarding Trin moving to Denby Dale Rd, the land values at the time is of no consequence here, whether Ted or the club could afford it is irrelevent,the point is that a meeting did occur where the council offered Ted the land for the club and Ted turned it down for reasons different to what you are implying.

Quote: vastman "Mopsey, it's not your fault or mine that you haven't been involved in the meetings etc that I have in the last 6 years. I know it makes me sound like a smug know it all at times but I can only say what I think I know even if unfortunately I can't always say where or whom I heard it from. I understand the frustration and why gossip and speculation appeal so much in the absence of hard facts. Trust me (I know you won't) the likes of TRB would love to tell you every grubby detail of what has gone on regarding the new stadium over the past 20 tortuous years, he could write a book on it and so could I. Sadly we simply can't. Once you get to a certain level you know quite a lot (how true it is only comes out later sadly), you have to trust people but can't say anything and it makes you feel like you are cheating the folk you claim to represent. Yet you know you can't tell it how it is all the time, that is the way of the world. You have a job and I'm sure there are things you and you're company do that you can't divulge.
Having said all that I'm not suggesting for one minute anyone in SWAG knows the full story or that we have never been lied to, we bl**dy have and been made to look chumps but you move on. I'm also not saying your theories are totally wrong, but you can't just shout them at people claiming them to be fact. You have to be able to back them up,'"

This is the problem, you cannot always back up what you say for different reasons, As you say you and TRB could write a book on every grubby little details for the past 20 yrs(your words not mine) and good luck with the book if you ever decide to write it. As you say when you get to a certain level you cannot say anything and tell it as it is, by your own admission you think mopseys theories are not wrong, then why defend the indefensible, If you knew of this meeting taking place and with all this guff of yours leads me to believe you do, then why not simply admit it, even if you are not prepared to say why he turned it down, if you are completely in the dark then why get involved at all.