He came on, penalty straight away. Runs it in with the same impact as a 13 year old playing open age. Hands on hips after 10 minutes. The lads an embarrassment. Genuinely can anyone think of a worse prop we’ve signed then him, I’m struggling.

No club statement. Are they just burying their heads in the sand?

Hickey

Well without causing a thread drift I wouldn’t be on a Wakey forum talking about a Leigh v Salford game would I - it was more a comment as to how important it was for Wakey on a Wakey forum, now you trot on and get on with your hyperlink edits

They fact that the young Leeds team you talk about were winning until they tired in that last 20 should tell you all you need to know. This squad of ours isn’t super league quality and the coaching set up can’t make it greater than the sum of its parts. That is why we are doomed.

Very hard to take anything positive from that. Extremely poor from the majority. Big changes needed if we're going to compete with anyone this year.

The plus is Cas weren't much better than us, FC look dreadful as they're playing KR now.

Time to get our together, starting with a new coach.

For anyone watching todays game you’d be forgiven for thinking different rules apply and the referees officiate differently…


Case in point:

On 9 minutes Wigan player makes a mess of play of ball. Lees doesn’t have a hand on him. Penalty to Wigan for messing about. Commentators saying Saints hard done to.

Yesterday: Dagger has Broadbent fall all over him as he’s trying to play ball. Broadbent hands on pushes him off balance. Knock on against trinity. Commentators saying should have been a Trinity penalty.

That led to our pressure vs Cas 12 men releasing and I think shortly after Cas svored the try that took game away. This was also a play after Dagger copped one in the face from Cas player to split his eye open. Appealed to ref who ignored it despite blood pouring from his eye.

Are referees applying the rules differently???

Do lower teams get officiated more harshly due to a perception they don’t have the skill levels to do things as correctly as top clubs?

It’s bad enough watching the poor performances but it’s just as bad seeing terribly inconsistent officiating that may not decide games but it certainly influences play and momentum.

Mopsey I already said that about the team. That was not the point. I am not blaming the ref and I’m not allowing you to derail my question on referee consistency in applying rules into a conversation about the clubs management. We can discuss that after if you wish.

So you are saying you believe the decision against Dagger for a knock on was a correct interpretation of the rules?

After watching the saints/Wigan game lesser messing about a penalty was given to the player playing the ball. I’m genuinely confused as to where the line is drawn for a penalty. It doesn’t add up unless referees apply rules differently.

I have to agree.
The ref wasn't why we lost but he made it more difficult.
Cas defense on the line was string because they were consistently offside.
There was one I saw where the ref was stood on the line to get them back and he had to look around the Cas player stood in front of him to see the play.

We were also regularly offside or doesn’t that count? The ref was even handed yesterday, they got a couple of 50-50’s so did we.

Some people need to get over this victim mentally they have, our problems are all of our own making.

"Some people" simply made a comment on the back of what was said above.
And "some people" need to read the bit where it said that the ref wasn't what lost us the game.

Some people wrongly inferred the ref made things more difficult, their words not mine. Some people need to look at things without red, white & blue specs on.

I suppose its the way the refs see it in the split second, I get what your saying about interpretation but I think the refs are doing OK and I know you've not said it but I don't think they cheat or they are bent. We must take it out of ghe refs hands and be more careful

He definitely made things more difficult for us.
That doesn't mean he was biased towards Cas.

But when we are not very good in attack, having the defense right on us made it difficult.