Thanks for your input, old lad.
Seems the folks who compile the Super League stats might agree with me ..

Fifita : only forward to make over 100 metres, only forward to average over 8 metres per carry, 29 tackles made -zero missed, zero errors, zero penalties conceded.

Miller : 5 missed tackles, 4 errors, 1 penalty conceded (stupid), 31 metres gained.

Specsavers perhaps ?

Trinhomeandaway like you I have watched Wakefield for over 50 years and a few more as well .The thing is you say it,as it is .Trouble with some on this forum is they looked at our players through rose tinted glasses ,instead of telling it as it is We are a S L club well run who can not complete with the big boys because we just spend to our limit not go millions in det chasing success .But I would not change a thing I am proud of this club .

I would just say Leeds were not as week as somesay

Happyjack ,the reasons I think we will finish in bottom 4 is, we have got to play 4 teams that will be pushing for a finish in the top 6 .three times.As for improvement we were playing rugby ,and making overlaps on the wing ,instead of the 5 drives and a kick .We were running with our heads up looking for players .There is loads of work to do .We have got to stop wasting chances,we could \should have had 3 trys in the second half .We have got to cut out the mistakes when we have the ball .We have got to move the ball away faster from the play the ball ,some times the ball was aimed at the floor instead of man. 3 times in the second half Lynn was behind the play the ball even thought we had the two hookers on the field .We just do not react fast enough As I say lot of work to do

Please tell, what you think Leeds 1st 17 would be then ?
In my opinion although Leeds were under strength in the backs, thats was pretty much their first choice pack.
Lets not forget Wakefield were missing at least 3 players that would likely be in the 1st 17 Jowiit/Battye/Wood.

A few less brain farts in defence and a bit more savvy in attack and we’d have come away with the points of that I’m pretty sure .I’m sure the coaches will be working on a few areas that we need to tidy up ,but for me I was happy with the performance for a first game .Sure I was miffed when Walker was carried back over the line and then later was bundled out of the way for Dwyer to go over, Tupou’s break should have resulted in a try if timing was better,senior was unlucky to get pulled for a Forward pass as I’m pretty sure he’d have made the line ,but I’m glad that we are talking about fine margins and not a shellacking like we’ve all witnessed over the years when the opposition get their noses in front .Bit more oomph in the forwards and a bit more guile in the backs and we are a match for anyone from what I’ve watched over the weekend .Consistency is the key to our success ,let’s hope we find it over the next few games and have a cracker of a season .

Whilst we were missing 3 players as you say possibly on wood would make the starting 13 (who are you dropping for Jowett and Battye)
Whilst jowit is ok hes not getting in front of Walker and Battle whlust he gives 100% hes a championship prop at best

Leeds startimg team would have been something like this i guess

1 Jack Walker
2 Tom Briscoe
3 Harry Newman
4 Konrad Hurrel
5 Ash Handley
6 Robert Lui
7 Luke Gale
8 Oledski
9 Leeming
10 Prior
11 Alex Mellor
12 Ryse Martin
13 Tevano

Whilst their pack is/was probably their strongest they will get this year (unless they sign)
They had 5 out of 7 backs missing that would have 100% started.
To lose your superstar fullback,both centres,last seasons leading try scorer and your stand off obliterated their team
With this information Leeds had 40% of there strongest team missing and 72% of their backs missing
What we had possibly 1 player missing that would have started
Makes a huge difference,with there backs in place we definitely don't get the chances out wide like we did and under so much more pressure defensively against there strike players

Trinityhomeandaway Jowit as fought and got the number one shirt Walker was one of Mr Chester panic buys last season ,Chester as said that Battye is playing against Wigan .And K Wood is the only hooker with any idea how to move us forward .I've been acused of talking rubbish on hear ,but I think I can hand the mantle over to you

I already said Wood would have played
Walker is going to play fullback in front of jowit in my opinion (time will tell) and no matter what you think about Battye he is nearly 30 years old and has hardly played any top flight rugby,there is a reason for that and also why he hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt

I'll take that bet re Max over Walker all day long.
If you look at your logic about Batts not getting the 8 or 10 shirt, then by [iyour[/i logic, Walker should have the No.1 jersey???
Also, was Batts signed after the squad numbers were released?

You ask why Battye hasn't been given the number 8 or 10 shirt, but say that Walker will play in front of Jowitt who incidentally has been given the number 1 shirt, not sure where your logic is there chief, also not sure what Battye's age has to do with it, isn't he the youngest recognised prop at the club?, and also one last point, wasn't the shirt numbers given out before he signed anyway, and if that was the case you wouldn't expect the coach to relieve one of the present incumbent of the jerseys' surely.

Yes I believe walker will play infront of Jowitt thats my opinion
Battye's age has lots to do with it,why do you think he is nearly 30 and nobody has previously come in for him to play top flight rugby ?
Whilst he is a hard worker he is never going to change or win you a game,championship quality at best but I hope he proves me wrong (as well as all the other coachs who didn't come in for him previous)
Enjoy your week

Good attempt at fitting your narrative - i asked for the first 17,not first 13.
Jowitt 100% before Walker - Hampshire would be full back before Walker.
Battye would have been in 17 instead of Tangata.
K Wood would have been in ahead of J Wood.

Even though you only decided to use the first 13 - still no where near a virtual 2nd string Leeds team.

What amazes me is how these posters emerge after one loss, never to be seen again, then another one appears spouting the same old nonsense and we are supposed to not be able to work out what they are up to. It's insulting, to be honest, my grandson could probably spot the pattern and the agenda.

Dont need anything to fit my "narrative" 5 out of your starting 7 backs missing surely in anybody books would be classed as 2nd string

Just to weigh up your argument are you saying that if we had Jowit missing, Johnstone missing,tupou missing,Lyne missing and Miller missing you wouldn't class that as a 2nd string waky side ?