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Quote: PopTart "That is great news. Even this forum must find it hard to criticise that move.'"


I demand to know why it wasn't a five year contract!

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In al, seriousness brilliant move from the club eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: PopTart "That is great news. Even this forum must find it hard to criticise that move.'"



Well you can't build a team around a winger but it shows we can start somewhere.

Onward and upward

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Brilliant news,best wishes tom

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If Tom avoids injury I have no doubt that with his ability and mature attitude he could be every bit as good as Gareth Ellis in his respective position. Only difference is we will enjoy it for longer, very happy. I know Phil Clarke considers him a future International and although Clakie waffles a bit he's a fair judge. icon_biggrin.gif icon_cheers.gif

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Quote: vastman "If Tom avoids injury I have no doubt that with his ability and mature attitude he could be every bit as good as Gareth Ellis in his respective position. Only difference is we will enjoy it for longer, very happy. I know Phil Clarke considers him a future International and although Clakie waffles a bit he's a fair judge.
Personally I don't see it. I hope I am wrong but I have seen many better prospects come and go without making an impact.

For me he is decent at most facets of the game, but I don't see anything that sets him apart as special.

Comparing him with Ellis is ridiculous. I think it is more an indication of how poor the pathways at Trinity have been for a long time that gets fans so excited about this deal.

Hopefully however he proves me wrong.

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Quote: jonh "Personally I don't see it. I hope I am wrong but I have seen many better prospects come and go without making an impact.

For me he is decent at most facets of the game, but I don't see anything that sets him apart as special.

Comparing him with Ellis is ridiculous. I think it is more an indication of how poor the pathways at Trinity have been for a long time that gets fans so excited about this deal.

Hopefully however he proves me wrong.'"

Can you see that bonfire?
Please feel free to pee on it! Goodness me, enjoy the positives, we have enough bloody negatives during a season. Jeez

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Quote: JINJER "Can you see that bonfire?
Please feel free to pee on it! Goodness me, enjoy the positives, we have enough bloody negatives during a season. Jeez'"


I think there are significantly more positives in the squad than this signing.

I appreciate due to the fact he is home grown fans get excited but as I said I just don't see anything in his game to suggest he will be anything more than average at the top level at best so personally I think a 4 year deal is a bit much. 2 points however need to be taken into account, firstly we don't know how the deal is structured and better judges than me think he is worth the 4 year deal.

Time will tell I guess. Would love to be wrong.

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For me it's about the 4 years it shows commitment from the club and the player. Imagine if he managed to have a great season or two and got picked up on the cheap or nothing from a bigger club.
Four years says it all. Great vision by the club.

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Quote: jonh "I think there are significantly more positives in the squad than this signing.

I appreciate due to the fact he is home grown fans get excited but as I said I just don't see anything in his game to suggest he will be anything more than average at the top level at best so personally I think a 4 year deal is a bit much. 2 points however need to be taken into account, firstly we don't know how the deal is structured and better judges than me think he is worth the 4 year deal.

Time will tell I guess. Would love to be wrong.'"


You speak from experience, and say much that makes sense but, not for the first time, I think you are wrong.

Wakefield has not been home to many great wingers, but this kid has the chance to be that - he is very exciting to watch and, with a decent centre inside him and work on his defensive positioning, he can make the Knights squad by this time next year! Enjoy! icon_smile.gif

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Quote: leedscat "Tom johnstone new 4 year deal great news'"


Fully deserved eusa_clap.gif
Plenty of promise and pace and everyone hopes that he will fulfil the massive potential that he has.
Well done for the club for putting faith in one of our own but, more credit to Tom and his family for the
loyalty that they have shown to Wakefield, fantastic to see this in the modern world.

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Quote: jonh "Personally I don't see it. I hope I am wrong but I have seen many better prospects come and go without making an impact.
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Wigan fan underwhelmed by other clubs signing!

Which other prospects are you comparing Johnstone to?

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Quote: TRB "You speak from experience, and say much that makes sense but, not for the first time, I think you are wrong.

Wakefield has not been home to many great wingers, but this kid has the chance to be that - he is very exciting to watch and, with a decent centre inside him and work on his defensive positioning, he can make the Knights squad by this time next year! Enjoy!
I agree with you TRB and don't wish to be pedantic but perhaps it would have been more accurate to say 'many great wingers recently' we had great wingers in the 60's and 70's - the likes of Hirst, Prinsloo, Fred Smith, Coetzer and Slater to name but a few. Sorry, I tend to live in the past but those wingers would have walked into any team nowadays.
BTW Johnstone is a brilliant prospect, those who doubt it cannot be relied on for their RL knowledge.

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Quote: TRB "You speak from experience, and say much that makes sense but, not for the first time, I think you are wrong.

Wakefield has not been home to many great wingers, but this kid has the chance to be that - he is very exciting to watch and, with a decent centre inside him and work on his defensive positioning, he can make the Knights squad by this time next year! Enjoy!
I think he first needs to cement a place in the Trinity team which is not guaranteed before we can talk about England honours.

I also think second season syndrome is a big factor to consider.

He did really well at times last year and not so well at others. He clearly has bags of enthusiasm as most do in their debut year as they fly a little under the radar, I think he his still a little under the radar as he didn't burst into the scene as some do although at times he did impress.

In my opinion I have my doubts as whilst he does everything well I don't think he has that quality that sets really good players apart. I would have thought a 2 year deal would have worked better for the club but again there are plenty of external factors to consider ie potential if other clubs sniffing around which may have tipped the scales in his favour whilst negotiating, the structure of the deal etc. Most importantly better qualified than me think he is worth the deal which is ultimately what is the most important thing.

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Quote: jonh "I think he first needs to cement a place in the Trinity team which is not guaranteed before we can talk about England honours.

I also think second season syndrome is a big factor to consider.

He did really well at times last year and not so well at others. He clearly has bags of enthusiasm as most do in their debut year as they fly a little under the radar, I think he his still a little under the radar as he didn't burst into the scene as some do although at times he did impress.

In my opinion I have my doubts as whilst he does everything well I don't think he has that quality that sets really good players apart. I would have thought a 2 year deal would have worked better for the club but again there are plenty of external factors to consider ie potential if other clubs sniffing around which may have tipped the scales in his favour whilst negotiating, the structure of the deal etc. Most importantly better qualified than me think he is worth the deal which is ultimately what is the most important thing.'"


I think you're being a bit disingenuous there John, Tom has well above average speed and is deceptively strong while his mental toughness which allowed him to keep his head up when tries were scored against him was very impressive. He scored try's last year that required a level of footwork, instincts and anticipation found in very good wingers and not in average ones. He did this despite playing in a team low on confidence and ability, he had zero assistance from his centres and at times he could be forgiven for giving up because of the impossible defensive situations he was left in.

He is young, it is early but the signs are very good

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Cant believe some are questioning this, tom will become a massive player for club and country in fact had he been at wigan instead of joe burgess he probally already been an international by now.i for one am very happy can see him getting 20 tries

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