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Quote: newgroundb4wakey "I don't profess to be very intelligent but you've lost me with that post. Are you condoning the damage that these idiots have done to your clubs image.

Only asking.'"



Of course I’m not condoning the actions of some divvy kids, however I’m alluding to the scenario of something far more sinister & how that could possibly be the fault of WTRLFC.

Are they expected to police every “so called” supporter that rocks up at an away match, surely it’s down to the security systems at the grounds they are visiting to ensure no contraband enters that ground.

Hell, I can’t even take my suitcase to B.V anymore!

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Quote: newgroundb4wakey "But it was the idiots who brought the smoke bombs into the ground. They were knowingly doing wrong but the stewards failed to stop them. Are you saying its morally ok for nutters to commit acts because its the stewards fault for not stopping them. Its got to the point where you're now sticking up for these idiots rather than condemning them.'"


Sorry mate but it's not how I'm reading it. I think it's been pretty clear what everyones thoughts about the tool/s who let the smoke bomb off, no ones condoning it at all, not the ones you've replied to anyway. But at the same time each club has to do everything they can to stop incidents happening before they happen, that's why Wakefield have had to go to the lengths they have, after incidents that took place especially between our two teams where there has been a bit of a history of late. That seems to be the only point which you seem to disagree but plenty of Cas fans blamed the Wakey Club and the stewerds when it kicked off a few seasons ago.

Tbh though not sure what the back and forth is about because you have said a few posts above that you don't think we should be fined but then go on to say we have to take some responsibility, which I think you'll agree we have or at least are doing our best to find the people and take make an example, much like we did with the bannings of a few trouble causes a few years ago.

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Quote: newgroundb4wakey "But it was the idiots who brought the smoke bombs into the ground. They were knowingly doing wrong[*] but the stewards failed to stop them. Are you saying its morally ok for nutters to commit acts because its the stewards fault for not stopping them. Its got to the point where you're now sticking up for these idiots rather than condemning them.'"


You've answered your own question squire, the inadequate amount of stewards failed to stop them. If the stewards' had been doing their job properly we could have spoken more on our magnificent achievement last Sunday and not two mindless idiots', and fwiw I've already spoke of my contempt for them but don't let that stop you from trying to put words in my mouth to suit your flimsy argument.

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I'd be interested in what Mick Carter's take on this is. Blame Cas Tigers for lack of stewarding and not searching speccies correctly, or WTW supporters for bringing the smoke bombs into the stadium. Maybe a bit of both or does he play the "we are always the victim" card lake most on here are doing.

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Most are not doing that at all.
We all know we have to find them and ban them. Simple as.

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Is this more a case of cas fans desperate to get Wakefield in trouble, they haven't wrote so many e mails since they were opposing our stadium. How many of them have emailed the names of the 2 cowards punching wakefield fans leaving the ground which is worse behaviour in my book, I haven't seen anything from cas condoning that incident.

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "Is this more a case of cas fans desperate to get Wakefield in trouble.'"


Yeah - I'm Spartacus. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "Is this more a case of cas fans desperate to get Wakefield in trouble, they haven't wrote so many e mails since they were opposing our stadium. How many of them have emailed the names of the 2 cowards punching wakefield fans leaving the ground which is worse behaviour in my book, I haven't seen anything from cas condoning that incident.'"


I don't think the majority of Cas fans are trying to get Wakey fans in trouble. The usual suspect is at it but he's basically a troll masquerading as a decent fan and needs ignoring. The overall blame for the smoke bombs is with the party that brought them in IMO, which is why MC was so (rightfully) annoyed.

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Quote: PopTart "Most are not doing that at all.
We all know we have to find them and ban them. Simple as.'"


I now know what I feared that the inane spoutings from Stevo have entered the RL vernacular SIMPLE AS. d040.gif

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You can't have it both ways.
Its no good complaining about rigorous stewarding re. searching bags, not allowing opened drinks etc then complain about idiots who bring in items deemed dangerous or socially unacceptable.
So will we have further complaints against Trinity's more strict stewarding policy that has led to friction between some fans and the club?

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It's ridiculous to even contemplate WTW receiving any sort of sanction for this incident; the club can have no control over the conduct and behaviour of fans in any location other than inside its own stadium - they are a RL club, not the state police.

What the club should be judged on is their actions in trying to identify and deal with the idiots involved - and they seem to be doing a good job in that regard, although I'm less enthusiastic about MC storming the terraces himself.

Whether Cas are spoken to about their admission policy and stewarding is a matter for the RFL - I wasn't searched on the way in and I was free to wander wherever I wanted, with a flask full of polonium tea in my rucksack, together with a nice bun.

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Quote: Tigerade "I'd be interested in what Mick Carter's take on this is. Blame Cas Tigers for lack of stewarding and not searching speccies correctly, or WTW supporters for bringing the smoke bombs into the stadium. Maybe a bit of both or does he play the "we are always the victim" card lake most on here are doing.'"

You're usually a pretty good poster but this one is complete crap, there can't be many fans of clubs or a clubs owner who are kicking up such a fuss over just a couple of their own speccis, practically everyone has berated these people for their actions. As for playing the "we're always the victims" card, just look on your own forum for that sort of mentality, kettle pan and grimey spring to mind

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Hi.

Can I just ask that nobody whacks me in the face on Sunday please?

I have a very good looking face, ridiculously handsome, and I'm hoping to embark on an acting career in Hollywood. At the moment I'd like to play the leading male in romcom's, as I also have natural charm and charisma. A broken nose would end those dreams.

Thanks.

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Quote: Barnabus "Hi.

Can I just ask that nobody whacks me in the face on Sunday please?

I have a very good looking face, ridiculously handsome, and I'm hoping to embark on an acting career in Hollywood. At the moment I'd like to play the leading male in romcom's, as I also have natural charm and charisma. A broken nose would end those dreams.

Thanks.'"

Can't promise, all good lucking guys deserve a slap every now and then. HTH. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: JINJER "Can't promise, all good lucking guys deserve a slap every now and then. HTH.
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Just below head height then?

I might try and evade the mass mayhem behind the sticks and sneek up to the corporate boxes. Where John kear used to tap his pen against the railings - that'd be a great 'vue'.

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