I can assure you he does get to most games, you could not be more wrong.

Knowing who the pair of them are I have seen Mr Brown far more times at away games than old newby

you got that wrong mate. i haven't missed a game in years. that means abroad, at home and away, friendlies, challenge cup or super league and what i said was that they weren't rubbish. they lost 1 game on dodgy penalties and the other they won and controlled the game for 90% of the time and played some good stuff.

take it you will be going to the cricket match

yawn yawn yawn and yawn

Don't think we will "miss" Atkins, because the thing with him is that we are always waiting for him to turn into the player we think he can be. It is the potential we are losing, not the actual contribution, and I would be happy to see someone out there doing the business in the season they receive the money, not some hoped-for season in the distant future.

As always, good luck to him. He's never slated Wakey as a club, and we all change jobs from time to time.

Beginning to believe this to be true now, heard via a player from another club now

It doesn't concern me anymore, two things do though.

1) will ryan give it his all for the rest of the season or not put his body on the line and become withdrawn as a player- ala richie myler.

2) who can we replace him with. TBH i think Martin is too slow now, we need big signing to replace him IMO. However if one that suits, both in terms of ability & cost cannot be found, i would put Gleeson in on one side with JD on the other.

Keeping TM may not be a bad call, he would give cover, both for 3,4 & 6.
But the quota space he takes up could be used in a big signing from the NRL.
Come on Mick Robinson, over to you, earn your money!

Would be happy to see Martin go got enough 'older' players for next season and the fact that he was happy to cut and run to cas says it all for me. Would also be happy to see JD in the centres with Murphy as back up if he ever gets free of injury.

In the context of your first question, do you believe that Ryan has given his all in the last few games since all this stuff about him being sold to Leeds, Wire and everywhere else has reared its ugly head.

As for Robinson is he Danny Brough's agent?

what is the point of bringing players through the youth system at the moment if we go running to the nrl all the time, theres no relegation. it only pees the young lads off, do it the saints way and bring them through

Very much so. If we don't see them as being able to play first team rugby, what's the point spending time and money on them? Give them a go, much better wasting money on journeymen Aussies/Kiwis.