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| Quote: 1315trinity "Think it's a bit strong to say the 'drove the club into the ground' when initially they did quite the opposite!
MC saved the club in its hour of need and JM fought tooth and nail for the ground improvements.
OK they got a lot wrong and the change of ownership was overdue . I for one haven't forgotten what they did.'"
AGREE If Mr Carter had not stepped in ,there would not have been a stadium for Mr Elllis to buy ,just house's for every body to buy .And for the record just love going away in the Championship along with a 1,000 plus supporter.And it is great to see bell view near full with season ticket holders ,and fans still have a go at the Stadium not been up to scratch .Were a professional rugby club not a professional football team ,We are lucky to be in the place we are Pity some so called fans can not see this .We own the Stadium How many S L clubs own there stadium. ,and all so how many championship teams own there ground and like ours is fit for S L if we get there
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| Carter sucked the life out of the club and only ever looked at ways to save money. while giving alternatives a wide berth.
He sucked the ambition and life out of trinity and even evaporated hope.
Cap in hand management from a sold out accountant.
Overstayed his welcome by 7 years.
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| Quote: lampyboy "Carter sucked the life out of the club and only ever looked at ways to save money. while giving alternatives a wide berth.
He sucked the ambition and life out of trinity and even evaporated hope.
Cap in hand management from a sold out accountant.
Overstayed his welcome by 7 years.'"
Nail on the head for me, especially in that last sentence.
Don't gwt me wrong, he did some good in the earlier years, but certainly stayed on too long.
Another observation Ive made recently, when Ellis has encountered a hurdle, such as the floodlights or water supply, he rolled his sleeves up and got on with sorting the issue with minimal fuss or ado. When, previously we've heard the blame card, before solving the problem.
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| Cash always helps, thankfully Ellis has plenty and is prepared to use it. Carter and Minards had relatively little and weren't.
As others have said, let's just focus on the affect an owner with funds will have upon the club. We know the issues of the past, let's look forward and enjoy the ride.
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| Quote: lampyboy "Carter sucked the life out of the club and only ever looked at ways to save money. while giving alternatives a wide berth.
He sucked the ambition and life out of trinity and even evaporated hope.
Cap in hand management from a sold out accountant.
Overstayed his welcome by 7 years.'"
Isn't it a good job he did? Because no one else came in over that 7 years.
I still don't get the need to try and prove something when actually most don't know the details and none could actually do anything about it.
We are lucky Ellis has the resources and drive that he has. More power to him.
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Nail on the head for me, especially in that last sentence.
Don't gwt me wrong, he did some good in the earlier years, but certainly stayed on too long.
Another observation Ive made recently, when Ellis has encountered a hurdle, such as the floodlights or water supply, he rolled his sleeves up and got on with sorting the issue with minimal fuss or ado. When, previously we've heard the blame card, before solving the problem.'"
He had no choice but to sort them seeing as they occured in his ownership of the club - what issues of a like nature
Did Carter not act on?
Why do people keep raking crap up when the club is now showing signs of resurgence?
With hindsight MC might well have said P... o..
To trinity and given his critics chance to stick their knives where the sun doesn't shine!
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| Carter couldn’t say P*** o**
He had sunk around £270k of his dad’s money into the club and to get it back the club had to survive.
Likewise Chris Brereton for around £160k
Nothing wrong with that being their motive whatsoever but too many fans seem to think they did it because they love the club.
Don’t get confused, to get their money back they had to keep the club going
They got what they wanted and the fans saw another few years of SL
Win Win
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| Quote: The Avenger "Carter couldn’t say P*** o**
He had sunk around £270k of his dad’s money into the club and to get it back the club had to survive.
Likewise Chris Brereton for around £160k
Nothing wrong with that being their motive whatsoever but too many fans seem to think they did it because they love the club.
Don’t get confused, to get their money back they had to keep the club going
They got what they wanted and the fans saw another few years of SL
Win Win'"
So you are criticising him for putting £270k into the club?
And then, in fact, leaving the loans in the club and not taking them out?
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| Quote: 1315trinity "He had no choice but to sort them seeing as they occured in his ownership of the club - what issues of a like nature
Did Carter not act on?
Why do people keep raking crap up when the club is now showing signs of resurgence?
With hindsight MC might well have said P... o..
To trinity and given his critics chance to stick their knives where the sun doesn't shine!'"
The debts that were paid off were from the previous owner. He was on the board but not the owner. He was part of the decision making that got the club into that situation which he was happy to go along with.
I think that the vast majority of us want to move on, and put the past behind us, I certainly do, its not helped when some people try to compare tje too, and still want to keep praising MC and JM almost 6 months after theyve gone
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "The debts that were paid off were from the previous owner. He was on the board but not the owner. He was part of the decision making that got the club into that situation which he was happy to go along with.
I think that the vast majority of us want to move on, and put the past behind us, I certainly do, its not helped when some people try to compare tje too, and still want to keep praising MC and JM almost 6 months after theyve gone'"
I'm not praising them but I will not stand by when when others slag them off unjustifiably.
If MC hadn't taken the helm there wouldn't be a club - end of.
Now I think its reasonable to be appreciative of that
I'm done others have their view I have mine based on fact
I look forward to a brighter future !
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