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Quote: Prince Buster "I wonder if he has considered some type or partnership with Sandal Rugby Union. They already have loads of land and an half decent set of facilities. Good location near Belle Vue too. I think Wigan have some form of link with Orrell and I also think HUll use a local RU club as their trainng base.'"

Sandal Ru facilities aren't suitable, they've been tried before, can't use main pitch and the other pitches are basically quagmires in the winter months, having been involved in offering offsite training facilities for the previous regime, I get why they used, then cancelled and then re-instated their arrangement with Sandal RU.
There is plenty of land in the district the council could offer on a peppercorn rent to the club, however to get it suitable for what ME wants will cost a few bob icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Trojan Horse "Surely the next phase of works in south east rollin shack would give a 2 floor gym and classroom facility and offer this option? The floor space would accommodate quite a number. And it won’t cost the club as the money is there for it (or it should be there).

There’s literally 2 floors of gym and you could scrap the cafe and increase the training space indoors.'"

I got the impression it was a training pitch he was looking for

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The old miners welfare facilities at the kibble, sharlston would be ideal. The fields were great in the day, bowls cricket, football rugby and although the pit club no longer exists the land does and it would be ideal for the community.

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Quote: financialtimes "Sandal Ru facilities aren't suitable, they've been tried before, can't use main pitch and the other pitches are basically quagmires in the winter months, having been involved in offering offsite training facilities for the previous regime, I get why they used, then cancelled and then re-instated their arrangement with Sandal RU.
There is plenty of land in the district the council could offer on a peppercorn rent to the club, however to get it suitable for what ME wants will cost a few bob
The Council's contribution will depend on what kind of facility is on offer. A RL centre of excellence for the district would be great, but then you get the 'what about Fev and Cas) argument.

For the Council to offer a good chunk of land and underwrite the construction, it will need a wider scope than that. The Council are allowed to go into partnership with private companies under the Private Finance Initiative, but to do so the project has to offer a significant service to a reasonably large sector of the community in return, and RL alone possibly won't be enough. RL/Football and other field sport combined, especially those offering disabled access most certainly would, and should overcome any political objections.

The key is for Trinity to become the lead organisation, and the one the Council allows to run the facility. I'd guess that for such an ambitious gacility as would be needed to match the criteria, you'd be looking at 10 million, not including the land.

For Wakefield Trinity to become the chief operator I reckon we'd need to stump up a third of the cost. Though I do think some grant aid might be available in this instance.

FWIW I'd expect to see a full sized indoor pitch, at least two hybrid outdoor pitches, all floodlit. Changing rooms, gym, medical facilities, classrooms, and so on. It would need to be very near the city centre, as access via public transport is vital for community facilities.

The other alternative is to simply take control of a small club, preferably RL, and develop their ground to the standard required, keeping them on as tenants on a peppercorn rent. Sound quite mercenary, but it might suit some clubs if done sensitively. Be a lot cheaper, but more limited.

I think the most underused sports facility in Wakefield is the old Police Fields at Sandal. There is probably room for four pitches there and a facility building. Don't know who owns it, or if access may be an issue.

It's certainly fun speculating.

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "The old miners welfare facilities at the kibble, sharlston would be ideal. The fields were great in the day, bowls cricket, football rugby and although the pit club no longer exists the land does and it would be ideal for the community.'"


Totally agree, though it's a bit further from town than would be ideal if you wanted Council support.

As a Trinity only facility, ideal.

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I think the most underused sports facility in Wakefield is the old Police Fields at Sandal. There is probably room for four pitches there and a facility building. Don't know who owns it, or if access may be an issue.

It's certainly fun speculating.'"


That isn't too far away from Belle Vue either. The locals would back the idea of expanding it as a sporting facility as they're constantly worried about the land being sold off for housing.

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "That isn't too far away from Belle Vue either. The locals would back the idea of expanding it as a sporting facility as they're constantly worried about the land being sold off for housing.'"

i thought it had been sold and a new sports centre etc was going to built off Shay Lane Walton.
I'm sure this was talked about 3 years or so ago, maybe plans/planning permission fell through.

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "That isn't too far away from Belle Vue either. The locals would back the idea of expanding it as a sporting facility as they're constantly worried about the land being sold off for housing.'"


It's this place....

https://www.yell.com/biz/west-yorkshire ... d-1090151/

We've been to a few functions there over the years and there is plenty of land around there that could potentially be utilised but I'm not sure what the current state of play is regarding the potential housing development that has been mooted for the site for the past 20 years or so ??
Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "That isn't too far away from Belle Vue either. The locals would back the idea of expanding it as a sporting facility as they're constantly worried about the land being sold off for housing.'"


It's this place....

https://www.yell.com/biz/west-yorkshire ... d-1090151/

We've been to a few functions there over the years and there is plenty of land around there that could potentially be utilised but I'm not sure what the current state of play is regarding the potential housing development that has been mooted for the site for the past 20 years or so ??


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I’ve mentioned before that the old Westgate Common pitches at the back of Snapethorpe school are perfect for a training centre.
There are two pitches, also room to put an indoor facility there, it’s already got floodlights, there’s secure parking, it’s just a few hundred yards from Jn 40 M1, the existing building has changing rooms, function rooms, medical room, gym and upstairs has classrooms etc.
The whole place is surrounded by 10ft steel fencing

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Quote: The Avenger "I’ve mentioned before that the old Westgate Common pitches at the back of Snapethorpe school are perfect for a training centre.
There are two pitches, also room to put an indoor facility there, it’s already got floodlights, there’s secure parking, it’s just a few hundred yards from Jn 40 M1, the existing building has changing rooms, function rooms, medical room, gym and upstairs has classrooms etc.
The whole place is surrounded by 10ft steel fencing'"

I went to school there, left in 1962, played plenty of Rugby on those fields, i believe Westgate Common RL played their games there at one time, difficult to think nothing has been built on some of that land in the past 60 years, but it could be an ideal site for community sports development.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "I went to school there, left in 1962, played plenty of Rugby on those fields, i believe Westgate Common RL played their games there at one time, difficult to think nothing has been built on some of that land in the past 60 years, but it could be an ideal site for community sports development.'"

West gate wolves were the last team to play out of there, it’s a bit of a sad tale what happened and the monies that went missing and debts left, over a hundred kids left with no club overnight. Would be a good spot due to the fencing, although I’m not 100% sure there is enough field space for what is ultimately required icon_sad.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "West gate wolves were the last team to play out of there, it’s a bit of a sad tale what happened and the monies that went missing and debts left, over a hundred kids left with no club overnight. Would be a good spot due to the fencing, although I’m not 100% sure there is enough field space for what is ultimately required
A large chunk of Snapey's sports fields had been given over to housing last time I had a nostalgic walk around the outside perimeter. .

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Quote: KevW60349 "i thought it had been sold and a new sports centre etc was going to built off Shay Lane Walton.
I'm sure this was talked about 3 years or so ago, maybe plans/planning permission fell through.'"


I think it was an opening proposal by a developer that neither the council nor the locals really warmed to. That Brook Farm alternative is mainly on a massive slope so I can't see it being suitable as an alternative WY Sports site anyway.

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Quote: vastman "

I think the most underused sports facility in Wakefield is the old Police Fields at Sandal. There is probably room for four pitches there and a facility building. Don't know who owns it, or if access may be an issue.
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I played at this venue about from '81 through to '84 for the now defunct Castle ARLFC... really good space and always had fantastic potential... good friends and good memories.

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What about just around the corner on Neil Fox Way, i know there's loads of house building going on but if i remember rightly,large areas are also for use as industrial,pub restaurants etc, leisure facilities.
Does WMDC own this land,or is it privately owned?
Anyway would be ideal if there was space available to build our own facilities.

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