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| Quote: 18th Man "Where's that? When i've been on the Total RL forum I've never managed to see any replies?!'"
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Been on the go since Monday night so it will be well down the page.
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| At the end of the day it's a wooden stand one of only 2 that exists in Rugby League today the other being Keighley. You can tart it up all you want but it's a wooden structure and this is 2023. All the waffle about upgrading the jungle, £2,000,000 to spend and no mention of upgrading their floodlights which were installed 1966. Wakefield have had 3 sets of lights in that time. They are using sticking plaster in the hope of getting a grade B from IMG, they have left it whilst the last minute i just hope they get found out.
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| All Cas usual banter apart. They have been dicked over same us us. OK we got a stand but that's even been downgraded during the build. If both our clubs had been in another local authority there is a good chance we would both have had proper new stadiums long by now. Look what we eventually got after all the various stadium ideas started being promised around 2005 ish. Cas have got a very long hard struggle ahead I suspect.
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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo ""Castleford Stadium"
Been on the go since Monday night so it will be well down the page.'"
Sorry but I still can't see it?! Am I looking at the wrong site?
https://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.ph ... rd-tigers/
Just posts with no replies show up.
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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo ""Castleford Stadium"
Been on the go since Monday night so it will be well down the page.'"
Sorry but I still can't see it?! Am I looking at the wrong site?
https://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.ph ... rd-tigers/
Just posts with no replies show up.
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| Not sure where people are.looking. In the full interview (over 1 hour) with Mark Gratton he is asked if there is a plan B if the planning decision is delayed any longer. He explains what plan B is but doesn't want to use it. The other option was to play for a season at another stadium with York given as an example for a season while the full revamp was in progress as that would be an easier way to meet IMG criteria. Not sure if you are aware but it involves 2 PPs one for the ground and one for the Axiom site. When Axiom site gets approval it releases the money to start the work at the jungle .
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| Quote: 18th Man "Sorry but I still can't see it?! Am I looking at the wrong site?
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Not sure where people are.looking. In the full interview (over 1 hour) with Mark Gratton he is asked if there is a plan B if the planning decision is delayed any longer. He explains what plan B is but doesn't want to use it. The other option was to play for a season at another stadium with York given as an example for a season while the full revamp was in progress as that would be an easier way to meet IMG criteria. Not sure if you are aware but it involves 2 PPs one for the ground and one for the Axiom site. When Axiom site gets approval it releases the money to start the work at the jungle .'"
The article I saw was from a league express tweet.
It just came across as a bit desperate, but might have been cropped by the journalist.
The last paragraph was a bit of an odd sentence to come out with regarding delays..
Don’t know much about axiom as an outfit but I can’t see them submitting anything until they have companies signed on the dotted line to move into their warehouse’s…
Cant see them submitting plans….handing cas a lump sum telling them to crack on… while they sit on waste land waiting for companies to buy warehouses.
When it suits them though, they won’t be able to submit them fast enough.
The cost will also be a factor as prices are sky high, although I would of thought this will benefit cas also as your stadium will cost less to construct.
Could end up being a long haul but it will happen eventually.
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| Quote: Belle Vue "The article I saw was from a league express tweet.
It just came across as a bit desperate, but might have been cropped by the journalist.
The last paragraph was a bit of an odd sentence to come out with regarding delays..
Don’t know much about axiom as an outfit but I can’t see them submitting anything until they have companies signed on the dotted line to move into their warehouse’s…
Cant see them submitting plans….handing cas a lump sum telling them to crack on… while they sit on waste land waiting for companies to buy warehouses.
When it suits them though, they won’t be able to submit them fast enough.
The cost will also be a factor as prices are sky high, although I would of thought this will benefit cas also as your stadium will cost less to construct.
Could end up being a long haul but it will happen eventually.'"
The Environment agency has raised concerns with bot PP's as i understand and 2 of the major customers that were looking to move into the new development next to Jnc 32(Amazon 7 Siemens) have pulled out, so I doubt that one will even get off the ground now, and as one is totally dependant on the other, it looks like neither will happen in the next 24 months, the PP is not being scheduled to be heard again until the November meeting at the earliest. It looks sadly like Cas are in a similar position to what Trinity were with Newmarket and have clearly been dicked around.
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| Quote: financialtimes "The Environment agency has raised concerns with bot PP's as i understand and 2 of the major customers that were looking to move into the new development next to Jnc 32(Amazon 7 Siemens) have pulled out, so I doubt that one will even get off the ground now, and as one is totally dependant on the other, it looks like neither will happen in the next 24 months, the PP is not being scheduled to be heard again until the November meeting at the earliest. It looks sadly like Cas are in a similar position to what Trinity were with Newmarket and have clearly been dicked around.'"
This explains Mark Grattans musical chairs plan B.
But didn’t notice any mention of floodlights big screen digital advertising which we have found out to out cost… ain’t cheap!
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| Quote: Belle Vue "This explains Mark Grattans musical chairs plan B.
But didn’t notice any mention of floodlights big screen digital advertising which we have found out to out cost… ain’t cheap!'"
They don't have to have them.....they are just a significant number of points.
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| Quote: financialtimes "The Environment agency has raised concerns with bot PP's as i understand and 2 of the major customers that were looking to move into the new development next to Jnc 32(Amazon 7 Siemens) have pulled out, so I doubt that one will even get off the ground now, and as one is totally dependant on the other, it looks like neither will happen in the next 24 months, the PP is not being scheduled to be heard again until the November meeting at the earliest. It looks sadly like Cas are in a similar position to what Trinity were with Newmarket and have clearly been dicked around.'"
I'm not sure where you get all this from mate.
Axiom submitted 5 new documents to PP regarding the Glasshoughton site which addressed the concerns on September 14th. They submitted 1 more document on the 15th September for the Jungle development (flood risk) to hopefully be heard at the PP meeting in November. If passed this releases the money immediately to start the ground improvement. We'll have to see I suppose.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "I'm not sure where you get all this from mate.
Axiom submitted 5 new documents to PP regarding the Glasshoughton site which addressed the concerns on September 14th. They submitted 1 more document on the 15th September for the Jungle development (flood risk) to hopefully be heard at the PP meeting in November. If passed this releases the money immediately to start the ground improvement. We'll have to see I suppose.
Firstly everything I said is fact, at the time of me typing it I was unaware tha 24 hours prior, axiom sent in documents regarding the EA concerns, however, that still doesn’t remove their concerns until they respond at the next scheduled planning meeting. Secondly, the 2 major companies that had originally committed to the JcT32 site have gone elsewhere, this puts some jeopardy in the development, but I agree it isn’t a 100% dealbreaker. Lastly, the funds get released when “Axiom” release them, the only thing that dictates the timing (as stated in the S106 agreement) is that they cannot start on the jct 32 development until they release the fund, so if they don’t want to start on it for 4 years (which I think but not sure is the statutory length of these stand) then they don’t have to release the monies for 4 years HTH
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| Quote: financialtimes "Firstly everything I said is fact, at the time of me typing it I was unaware tha 24 hours prior, axiom sent in documents regarding the EA concerns, however, that still doesn’t remove their concerns until they respond at the next scheduled planning meeting. Secondly, the 2 major companies that had originally committed to the JcT32 site have gone elsewhere, this puts some jeopardy in the development, but I agree it isn’t a 100% dealbreaker. Lastly, the funds get released when “Axiom” release them, the only thing that dictates the timing (as stated in the S106 agreement) is that they cannot start on the jct 32 development until they release the fund, so if they don’t want to start on it for 4 years (which I think but not sure is the statutory length of these stand) then they don’t have to release the monies for 4 years
Read ad understood mate, I can only say that everything Axiom have said in communications on the matter is that they are desperate to start as soon as possible. Appreciate that you didn't know about the documents.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Read ad understood mate, I can only say that everything Axiom have said in communications on the matter is that they are desperate to start as soon as possible. Appreciate that you didn't know about the documents.
Nope.
The Eastwoods' submission of of 15th Sept is a begging letter saying "we can't do what they EA say we must do, so please ignore the environmental requirements".
As it stands the Cas development is screwed.
The developer has put in writing that they cannot fund the project at the level required.
You should also be aware that WMDC have made it clear to Cas that they cannot use the £2m in the way that Gratton has suggested in the press last week.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Read ad understood mate, I can only say that everything Axiom have said in communications on the matter is that they are desperate to start as soon as possible. Appreciate that you didn't know about the documents.
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