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Players come and players go. I remember when Neil Fox left for Bradford and how sick I felt. Murphy who has only played a few games is a promising winger but he's no Neil Fox, we'll move on without him.

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Quote: cosmicat "Well the chances are mc has offered the same deal not improved'"
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"Upgraded contract" not give you a clue?

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It’s not a secret that St Helens have been after him since he scored a bagful of tries against them at their place and his reported refusal to sign a new contract would suggest he wants the bigger club and higher profile games. He may also have looked at TJs career and decided he doesn’t want to spend five years being a big fish in a small pond. He’s also a Huddersfield lad who’s only been with Trinity for about 3 years so there’s no massive emotional loyalty to deal with on his part

Given the current strength of the wing position and assuming Sts want him now, I’d take a transfer fee and let him go

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Upgraded contract bullcrap extra pennies that's it fgs

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The only thing the club needs to concentrate on is staying in Super League because failure to do so would be a disaster despite what some might hope. When the new IMG ratings come into effect being out of SL would mean that we will lose a major benefit because we may have a partly developed ground but I am sure the current SL clubs will be favoured whatever they may say.
The only way to give us the best chance is to have the best available squad. We can be prudent with our finances which is laudable but sometimes you need to loosen the purse strings because the club need to weigh the loss of income from being relegated. I believe that relegation will also make all contracts void so the 25 years we have survived in SL will be wasted and our chances of getting a license will go with it.
With regards Murphy we need to look at the big picture he is young and like TJ an indication of our determination to progress. I wonder what happened to the “why should I leave Trinity” when TJ was asked if his ambitions would be better fulfilled at another club.

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To show ambition the club need to tie down Murphy imo. He’s a hot property and it would show a statement of intent if we can persuade him to stay. HKR have been doing this with their younger players and these are the kind of players you build a squad around. Obviously he’s nowhere near a 100k player yet but he’s worth investing in because his talent is unreal, I believe he’ll surpass Johnstone I honestly think he’s that good

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Quote: BIRDIEMAN "After reading a column in the league express by Martyn Sadler suggesting that Lewis Murphy is tipped to join st helens,
Due to the fact he has turned down an upgrade to his contract. How do we expect to compete in super league when letting
our better players move on, surely Mr Minnards & Co should at all costs try to keep hold of Lewis (stop penny pinching).'"
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Quote: Uptoncat "To show ambition the club need to tie down Murphy imo. He’s a hot property and it would show a statement of intent if we can persuade him to stay. HKR have been doing this with their younger players and these are the kind of players you build a squad around. Obviously he’s nowhere near a 100k player yet but he’s worth investing in because his talent is unreal, I believe he’ll surpass Johnstone I honestly think he’s that good'"
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So what would you do if he wants £100k to stay, if he isn't a £100k a year player yet?

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Make your mind up. Is it extra pennies or not upgraded?

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Quote: Uptoncat "
Quote: Uptoncat "To show ambition the club need to tie down Murphy imo. He’s a hot property and it would show a statement of intent if we can persuade him to stay. HKR have been doing this with their younger players and these are the kind of players you build a squad around. Obviously he’s nowhere near a 100k player yet but he’s worth investing in because his talent is unreal, I believe he’ll surpass Johnstone I honestly think he’s that good'"
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can you remember Gareth Ellis ? he went to Leeds for less than he was offered at Wakey. With some players it can be more than money. I know we have offered a very good contract but he is not accepting it so it must be something we can't offer.

Plus does anyone honestly think he would turn us down if he had no other options on the table. Anyone who thinks Saints have not approached him is either under 4yrs old or living in cloud Cuckoo land. There is no way anyone can accuse MC or the club for not trying their utmost.

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Quote: Prince Buster "can you remember Gareth Ellis ? he went to Leeds for less than he was offered at Wakey. With some players it can be more than money. I know we have offered a very good contract but he is not accepting it so it must be something we can't offer.

Plus does anyone honestly think he would turn us down if he had no other options on the table. Anyone who thinks Saints have not approached him is either under 4yrs old or living in cloud Cuckoo land. There is no way anyone can accuse MC or the club for not trying their utmost.'"
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I still think Murphy owes us a little bit more, given the opportunity and support he's had from the club and the fans. If Saints offer blows us out of the water then there's little MC/JM can do, I just hope it's not marginal. We do suffer from Players Agents seeing us as a staging point and shop window.

Less then a year ago many of us were on SM telling the lad to keep his chin up, that we were all right behind him and to move on from that nightmare debut v Leeds. If only he'd slowed that improvement down a bit. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: PopTart "
Quote: PopTart "Make your mind up. Is it extra pennies or not upgraded?'"
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Yes but he wants more not just extra £10

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "I still think Murphy owes us a little bit more, given the opportunity and support he's had from the club and the fans. If Saints offer blows us out of the water then there's little MC/JM can do, I just hope it's not marginal. We do suffer from Players Agents seeing us as a staging point and shop window.

Less then a year ago many of us were on SM telling the lad to keep his chin up, that we were all right behind him and to move on from that nightmare debut v Leeds. If only he'd slowed that improvement down a bit. icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Prince Buster "
Quote: Prince Buster "can you remember Gareth Ellis ? he went to Leeds for less than he was offered at Wakey. With some players it can be more than money. I know we have offered a very good contract but he is not accepting it so it must be something we can't offer.

Plus does anyone honestly think he would turn us down if he had no other options on the table. Anyone who thinks Saints have not approached him is either under 4yrs old or living in cloud Cuckoo land. There is no way anyone can accuse MC or the club for not trying their utmost.'"
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This is how I see it.
I just can't see that we have not made one of the hottest properties in SL a suitable offer.
So, perhaps he knows he has far more chance of playing for England and winning trophies with Saints than with us, and that's what it's about, not just money.
I just don't want a player bent on leaving, playing out the season. I'd rather cash in, and give one of the other lads who WANT to play for Trinity the chance.
All this of course is if the rumours are true!

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We are not in a position to lose a player like Murphy. Why would a club buy him now he is out of contract at the end of the season and a club like Saints can wait, the situation may be different if they thought we had the ability between now and May to agree a new contract, I guess they don’t.
I regret the reality is that our squad is not strong or in the whole experienced, sorry but that is a fact even though some remain in denial. I have said before we need to survive, we have pushed our luck to a point that some on here believe we are immune to relegation we are not. We can continue on a Championship budget but our chances to progress would be fatally flawed.

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