Removed the culprits of the 6 agains (Pitts from memory at least 2 and unbelievely Ashurst who is a master of conceding 6 agains) and bring on Batchelor it needed something to stem the flow and the coaches job is to see the areas of concern and act accordingly, he never once looked worried (i wont say didnt look bothered) when the cameras cut to him, zero animation to get messages out. Our best defenders are arguebly Hood and Whitbread (who was immense) nowhere to be seen

Our disclipline is appalling and has been all season but conceding 158 points in 3 games is self explanitory change of attitude is needed and some one with (new) ideas

Not sure if changing Poching would have any impact on this set of players.
However I do feel if you keep doing the same things over and over, you will get the same result.So maybe a change of coach or at the very least , some more experienced help is required in an attempt to at least try and avoid the drop.
Doing nothing would be my least favoured option.

Okay so I’m sorry but Poching takes a lot of rap for this result. and the last few. His decisions in selection at times are absolutely mind boggling.

1. Why is Batch not at centre???? He played twice and got Motm In two that we won.. we put Minns/Croft there and we leak try’s for fun. Again Croft was poor in defence today.

Poching has made an absolute mess tinkering with right centre. He took something that worked and broke it.

2. Why on earth has Crowther gravitated back to a 9??? We literally converted Kay because it was clear Crowther wasn’t a 9. I really rate Crowther as a 13 btw. We have Bowes who is a young exciting 9 who tackles very strong too and Poching is playing Crowther there as a stand in. Poor from Poching.

Poching I’m sure cares but he needs to take responsibility for this and sort it out. Players like Crowther, Batch, Murphy, Bowes will bust their backs out for trinity and we need them on that pitch.

Evans seems to be a decent player but if Kershaw pulls through this reserves game tomorrow he should be brought straight back into the fold.

I’ve never once believed we would go down since we got promoted

At the beginning of this season my thoughts based on the signings we made and with the deterioration of the impact our senior players the likes of ashurst and arona would have (who have previously being real stalwarts for the red white n blue) is that we would go down this season

I think the saddest thing is, that even if we do stay up
It’s another year of hoping not to get relegated at best, unless there are so really good players brought in to bolster the ranks

It’s really sad for us as fans to see a loss like that again

I’ll go watch us if we’re in the championship no probs, it might actually be more enjoyable

The thing is if we did remove Poching from his role we'd just promote Cummins anyway, so its pointless.

Think we can put this defeat on Fifita … starting 2 nd half a man down was criminal ! They were always going to come out fighting and we laid it on a plate for them !

Need new owners ASAP. They’ve got the club into this mess.

It further didn't help when Butler did that stupid, so called tackle and Miller kicking early, the 'six agains' also didn't help.
Dumb rugby from players without self discipline!

Hope there are mass brawls in the Hull derby, with HKR getting about six suspended; trouble is we still won't be in with a chance next week.

Cant put it all on fifita yes what he did was stupid but we as a team should be able to cope for 10 mins with 12 .also what buttler did was just as bad if not worse.there was loads of errors that led to it

Well he could the other week when we won a couple, he could when he took over from Chester. The players committed suicide today 20 minutes with 12 men in 25 degrees is a jolly good show. The team had heart but we are an aging team who will play well for a few games and drop back to not. Its called over 30 legs gone, body gone and all those can keep bulling them up but it won't do any good. Some people need to hang their heads in shame

Sorry but he had halftime to work out a way to cover Fifita absence plus we were rested. I would guess based on the try’s they scored we were not prepared.

Shocking ill disciplined poor defensive display with a team that folded like a pack of cards…unnecessary back to back sin bins with some very strange team selections and inflexible probable pre arranged interchanges (instead of play what you see keeping Hood and Whitbread in the game when down to 12) led to a likely victory turning into an embarrassing capitulation and defeat.

Batchelor should have been at centre, Crowther at 13 and Bowes interchange hooker. Butler doesn’t look fit enough for Super League and should be in the reserves until he loses some timber and can keep up with the pace of the game.

I think a short term advisory role from someone like John Kear is needed otherwise it’s certain relegation.

Couldn't agree more to be honest.

If Poching went, we'd only go down the cheap route or to the next yes man.

Are we any better off than we were in 2013?

Personally, I'm not convinced

https://t.co/n4DAPyoAlp Post game interview, starts around 28.30 minutes, sounds out of hi depth to me.

https://t.co/n4DAPyoAlp Post game interview, starts around 28.30 minutes, sounds out of hi depth to me.

Sorry Mopsey but your adding weight to Vastmans argument.

We won Hull and Wire. Batch was instrumental in both at right centre. Poching rung the changes in a back to back winning team by moving Batch to the middle and the players replacing him went on to leak try’s for fun and right edge defence fell to bits. That was Poching choice to tinker with a winning team and he fluffed it up.

Same with Crowther. He admitted himself last year he isn’t a 9. It appears in Pochings grand plan to start Batch at 13 Crowther is being made into our interchange 9. A role that he struggled with and is struggling with again. Crowther was playing well at 13.

Why Poching is making decisions like this just confuses the heck out of me.