Crowther, who came on from the bench and put in two very lazy and poor defensive efforts that contributed to 2 of Wigans try’s
Not for me, he’s got work to do IMO

And Tanginoa hasn’t!

When did Tanginoa last play to anywhere near his ability level? About two years ago that’s when.

When did Crowther? About two weeks ago.

Pretty obvious to me.You’re only as good as your last game that’s what they say. In that case Tanginoa is the worst player at the club.

Yes I’m being extreme to prove a point but not by much.

You’re just making my point for me, the last time we saw Tanginoa play at his best was when we played him at second row every week and let him find his best form there, y’know about 2 years ago

Jordan is limited, we’ve seen enough of him to know that what we see now is how he’s going to be throughout his career. He’s never going to trouble the opposition enough to make a Dream Team selection and that’s OK but he’s borderline good enough for Super League, that’s all.

Trust me I’m not making your point. Tanginoa is playing mainly SR and he still hasn’t had a decent game.

I’m not saying Tanginoa has been good by any stretch VM. He’s not performing at prop though we did see the odd flash when him vs wire when miraculously he spelled in the SR. Tanginoa was the best SR and forward at the club end of 2020 season until the experiment to convert him to a prop early 2021.

Tanginoa was a destructive left SR and has been converted into a average at best prop. The only reason I can think is to accommodate Ashurst. What an error that has been. Ashurst needs a rest and so does Pitts if we don’t want them burnt out for KR. We have Tanginoa and Batchelor who I think could be better options. Tanginoa would need to rediscover some form and fast and he will only do that on the edges.

If the players want to apologise properly they’ll go to Wigan and win.

The Tanginoa that was playing when Miller was on the field .What was is stats against Cas .Did not think he played that bad compared to some of the forwards

The thing with Kelepi is that he is absolutely the best at running the ball and can smash people in defense but his ball is not as good as the other second rowers and his over all defense in that position is not as good.
So you win something and lose something playing Tangino in SR.

As a second rower he was good enough to get in the dream team, a team selected by opposition coaches using a criterion of selecting the opposition player who performed well against you and caused you problems.

He did get some consecutive MOTM performances in. He was killing it in left SR when we signed him. Think Ashurst was injured. Soon as Ashurst came back from injury Tanginoa was ousted and sent to prop. The end result is what we see now. Whether he can get back the form he showed on the edges remains to be seen but I remember his damaging runs down field.

It's a big ask, they've got players coming back that weren't in the team at Saints, it would be some apology though if they did

Crowther may not have the experience of Tanginoa but has twice the work rate if not more and wants to play for Trin . Something is definitely amiss with Kelepi and seems a shadow of that barn storming forward we all watched and took to .Is it a confidence thing or is it attitude,I don’t know but it needs sorting ASAP as we are paying for the privilege of have having an overseas passenger at present . Is whitbread any better than Aydin , for me the jury is out ,Arona ,tupou and fifita have earned their stripes over the years and have been full value for their price tags IMO . Kelepi in his pomp is a sight to behold, let’s hope he gets back to those ways sooner rather than later because we certainly miss that attacking presence on the field

I agree, how on earth that wasn't a straight red, only the ref knows.
Did the ref gat any input from the VR because it was perhaps THE most clear Red Card decision I've seen, especially in the current climate of supposedly "protecting" players.

Still needs an opportunity to appeal whether it's clear cut or not.