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| Quote: homme vaste "Well apologies for the doom and gloom post but I`ve got to say, I can`t ever remember walking away from the ground having won feeling disappointed...
Wigan should never have been in that game in a million years and yet we gave them chance after chance.
Granted we were missing a few tonight, and I could forgive somethings on attack not coming off or the odd error, but we played absolutely clueless rugby tonight and relied on a few strokes of luck to get us over the line in the end.
Anyway 2 points is 2 points and that's just about the only positive for me tonight.
Keeping my fingers crossed that TJs injury isn`t anything serious.'"
You need to get out more HV.
Personally, I was chuffed to bits about beating Wigan, even if both sides were missing a number of players and especially with the adversity with injuries that we both took into the game and copped on the night.
Our defence was excellent all night and whilst there were mistakes (both sides), what on earth did you expect ??
There are some right miserable buggers on here these days and any win against Wigan is a good win.
Big raps for Jowitt, who was faultless, Kershaw who didn't put a foot wrong and Fifita for leading the pack.
Was it the greatest game of RL, not by a mile.
Can we (and Wigan) play better, of course we can.
It's job done and move on to the next game.
To concede just 6 points and they were on the back of penalties and restarts from the man in the middle, was a great defensive effort.
I think that you are being massively unfair on the team and the coaching staff.
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| Quote: jonh "Was it a great performance? Absolutely not.
Was it a professional performance? Absolutely.
The defence was fantastic and there were some cracking plays particularly on the short side which was clearly tactical.
Some of the fringe players showed up really well Yusuf in particular I thought was fantastic.
It clearly wasn’t a perfect performance but when you are struggling and low on confidence you revert to the basics and that is what Chester has done, rebuilding from the defence.
The win tonight pretty much guarantees Trinity SL status next year, which in turn gives us the ability to prepare for next year now in regards recruitment.
I’m normally a glass half empty kind of guy however tonight I’m made up with the result and a professional ugly win.
Clearly I’m, as usual, I’m the minority.'"
The 2nd half break from Arundel down the short side was fantastic to watch. Also the break from Johnstone, backed up by Rocky for his try was worth the admission fee.
Yes we made mistakes and it wasn't the best game of rugby we've ever played but once again we defended multiple sets on our line on several occasions without conceding and that shows some real determination and spirit.
Clearly we have some disgruntled fans on here that see Chester getting a new contract and want to pick up on any negatives they can to convince everyone it's the wrong decision.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You need to get out more HV.
Personally, I was chuffed to bits about beating Wigan, even if both sides were missing a number of players and especially with the adversity with injuries that we both took into the game and copped on the night.
Our defence was excellent all night and whilst there were mistakes (both sides), what on earth did you expect ??
There are some right miserable buggers on here these days and any win against Wigan is a good win.
Big raps for Jowitt, who was faultless, Kershaw who didn't put a foot wrong and Fifita for leading the pack.
Was it the greatest game of RL, not by a mile.
Can we (and Wigan) play better, of course we can.
It's job done and move on to the next game.
To concede just 6 points and they were on the back of penalties and restarts from the man in the middle, was a great defensive effort.
I think that you are being massively unfair on the team and the coaching staff.'"
I'm only half with you on this.
Sorry but even with missing players that Wigan team was begging to be thrashed yet somehow we contrived to allow them to make a game of it. Ditto, Cas last week, that was the most beatable Cas team I've seen in years yet we totally lost the plot. You can't seriously be happy with these performances?
The result last night, on the other hand, I am delighted with but if we play like that too often it might be the last one we see for a while.
Recognising issues doesn't automatically make you a moaner, in my book you are only a moaner if you seem to ne revelling in it.
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| Quote: Fordy "The 2nd half break from Arundel down the short side was fantastic to watch. Also the break from Johnstone, backed up by Rocky for his try was worth the admission fee.
Yes we made mistakes and it wasn't the best game of rugby we've ever played but once again we defended multiple sets on our line on several occasions without conceding and that shows some real determination and spirit.
Clearly we have some disgruntled fans on here that see Chester getting a new contract and want to pick up on any negatives they can to convince everyone it's the wrong decision.'"
That was without question the high point in the last few moth, the improvement is astonishing and is the factor that is winning us games.
It's also vital as IMHO defence is the basis of a good team. What annoys me is not that we don't have a Saints style attack but that we make so many basic errors that force us to defend even harder than we need to and thus robs us of the energy to attack more effectively.
As for CC getting a contract, I'm ok with that, he's still one of the better options unless Powell decides he'd rather coach us than Warrington.
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| Quote: vastman "I'm only half with you on this.
Sorry but even with missing players that Wigan team was begging to be thrashed yet somehow we contrived to allow them to make a game of it. Ditto, Cas last week, that was the most beatable Cas team I've seen in years yet we totally lost the plot. You can't seriously be happy with these performances?
The result last night, on the other hand, I am delighted with but if we play like that too often it might be the last one we see for a while.
Recognising issues doesn't automatically make you a moaner, in my book you are only a moaner if you seem to ne revelling in it.'"
Happy with the performance ? not entirely but, our defence was excellent and tbf, I expected us to lose (narrowly) last night so, walking out of the ground with a win, no matter how well we played, is a huge plus.
The one thing for sure is that, after the last year or so, I'm chuffed to have a club to support (in person) and that we are at least picking up some wins.
I can make a list of things that weren't great last night, many of which you mentioned in your post but, for a club like ours to have players like Tupou out injured, to be "stripped of 4 players, when some clubs seem to have refused to let their players take part in the game tonight, pick up injuries to Crowther and more seriously, Johnstone in the game and have Fifita playing with pain killers, any win is a good win, faults and all.
One thing that really surprised me was not setting up for a DG, when we were 12 points up and when the lead was cut to 6.
OK we managed to get a penalty but, a one pointer should have been straight forward enough and would have relieved some pressure..
Anyway, 2 points and on to next week.
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| Quote: Fordy "The 2nd half break from Arundel down the short side was fantastic to watch. Also the break from Johnstone, backed up by Rocky for his try was worth the admission fee.
Yes we made mistakes and it wasn't the best game of rugby we've ever played but once again we defended multiple sets on our line on several occasions without conceding and that shows some real determination and spirit.
Clearly we have some disgruntled fans on here that see Chester getting a new contract and want to pick up on any negatives they can to convince everyone it's the wrong decision.'"
Whilst there was no score from that break, for me it was a major game deciding play. Wigan had just scored, they smelt blood and we looked very tired. That break relieved a lot of pressure and changed the momentum of that match.
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| Ive seen a lot of 'gallant' defeats over the years. Give me a 'scruffy' win anytime.
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| Quote: LyndsayGill "Ive seen a lot of 'gallant' defeats over the years. Give me a 'scruffy' win anytime.'"
Absolutely. We've played superbly in the past but lost the game by 2-6 points. The number of times I've walked away from a game and thought 'another 5 minutes and we'd have won'.
I think some posters are doing Wigan a disservice, too. Yes, it was a young Wigan side, but those youngsters weren't there to make up the numbers. They were representing Wigan and hope one day to be regular first teamers. They weren't just going to turn up and have their bellies tickled.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "That’s a bit of a double edged dagger in Chesters back.
The defence has improved but Chester gets no credit and it’s all Last and Poching.
The attack while it wasn’t great did the job. Still it’s all CC fault for and not Last or Poching.....
Chester should take just as much credit for the defence as other coaching members and equally the same applies for attack.
I’m just happy that we have improved in our defence. There’s certainly been improvements since early season performances and hopefully we can kick on now.'"
The reason why fans are not giving Mr Chester any credit for the defence, is untill Last and Poching arrived the defence was like a sieve . Wigan had a lot of the ball through our mistakes, and the 6 more rule and think the ref was just watching us at offside.We would have not held out with the back room staff of the last few seasons .The three quarter line when T J went of was poor compared to when we had T J ,Lynn, Bish, B T, there for so long .Not having a go at any who played in the three quarters last night as the all gave 100% and Kershaw is getting there ,his defence and taking of the ball from kicks were good ,and looked the most improved player this year with Batch.And
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| Wigan have a pick of the best young talent. Remember Rocky signed for them even though he is from Normanton . However our youngsters outplayed their's last night. Fed up with all the negativity on here. I know for a fact that some of the biggest critics aren't even season ticket holders.That shows their commitment.I just hope the team don't read this forum because the comments do nothing to encourage players or coaching staff. We haven't got the best coach or the most talented players but they usually give 100 percent win or lose and I for one was entertained and encouraged by last night's performance.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Whilst there was no score from that break, for me it was a major game deciding play. Wigan had just scored, they smelt blood and we looked very tired. That break relieved a lot of pressure and changed the momentum of that match.'"
I thought the same at the time. Was right up there with the Korki run.
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| I kinda wonder what the result would have been had TJ not been available.
Its all if's buts and maybe's of course but I think the loss of our 1st choices hurt us much more than Wigan.
That's not to say either side didn't field a competitive side, make no mistake Wigan came expecting to win regardless.
In isolation away from a million other incidents that could have affected the result, its interesting that a player that should really have been unavailable, made the final passes for both our scores in situations where just being the link in a chain wouldn't have been good enough.
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| Quote: LyndsayGill "Ive seen a lot of 'gallant' defeats over the years. Give me a 'scruffy' win anytime.'"
Can't argue with that
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| Quote: ball-in-hand "Wigan have a pick of the best young talent. Remember Rocky signed for them even though he is from Normanton . However our youngsters outplayed their's last night. Fed up with all the negativity on here. I know for a fact that some of the biggest critics aren't even season ticket holders.That shows their commitment.I just hope the team don't read this forum because the comments do nothing to encourage players or coaching staff. We haven't got the best coach or the most talented players but they usually give 100 percent win or lose and I for one was entertained and encouraged by last night's performance.'"
Surely there is room for constructive criticism?
My big issue with the moaners is they moan before we've played which annoys the hell out of me. Post-match it's all opinions at least based on something that has actually happened.
Personally, I was delighted with the result but disappointed with elements of our game, ones that keep recurring and are unnecessary.
That said it would be churlish to say I'm not happy this morning, I am.
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| When Tom Johnstone is on the field I feel anything is possible and when he went off I did fear the worst.Full marks to the lads, they dug deep and fully deserved their win in an error strewn game.Like a few posters have said the transformation in the defence is amazing.Mind you, with the amount of silly, unforced errors we made,it needed to be.A mention for Pitts,who is playing out of his skin, and Battye, who returned to his best form and perhaps should be a starting prop on a regular basis.Really chuffed overall.
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