| FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Scrums - Stay or go in 2021? |
 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 915 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2012 | 12 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2023 | Sep 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
No scrums mind as well play touch and pass Aussies have em dosent slow it down at all do like the captain's challenged
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 915 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2012 | 12 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2023 | Sep 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
No scrums mind as well play touch and pass Aussies have em dosent slow it down at all do like the captain's challenged
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 5559 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2011 | 13 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| We’ve all grown up watching contested scrums at some time and the fisty cuffs that followed, which I must say I enjoyed in a sadist way  but having watched the present day game with the restart rule introduced and no scrums it has grown on me, maybe if the scrums were contested then maybe but the speed of game today the athletic players of today need to get into attack and defence as soon as possible and don’t want to hang around in a huddle . So I’m happy to carry on as we are. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 5144 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2014 | 10 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: BarnsleyGull "I thought that would be obvious..... ![]()
It was but you still thought it necessary to raise the issue as an option you would like to see in SL.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Captain | 3034 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2018 | 6 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
76901_1662991480.jpg
We're all Trin aren't we?:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76901.jpg |
|
| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "It was but you still thought it necessary to raise the issue as an option you would like to see in SL.'"
What are you on about? |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Captain | 2919 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2015 | 9 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
If we can't bring back the old "contested" scrum why don't we adopt a "miniature" scrum and enforce proper heeled ptbs (as they should be), and allow the player marking to strike for the ball as they used to be allowed to do. This would do away with the time wasting time of the full scrum yet allow a little bit of skilful competition. If not I reluctantly would have to do away with the scrum altogether.
The only reason the contested scrum became obsolete was because referees were not strict enough with offending players, hence all the penalties
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Captain | 2745 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2018 | 6 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
76475_1531151403.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76475.png |
|
|
What I find strange is that teams must be able to actually contest at the scrum, just no one does it that often, you see the opposition team pushing and winning the ball back on the odd occasion.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Captain | 2919 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2015 | 9 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Captain | 2723 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2019 | 6 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
77371_1547338507.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_77371.jpg |
|
| Quote: Redscat "a046.gif ![]()
They tried something similar years ago, reduced the number of players on the pitch from 30 to 26, how did that work out. I’m sure the 30 players game is bigger than our game, both domestically and globally.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Moderator | 20482 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg |
Moderator
|
|
Personally I want to keep scrums.
It is a traditional part of the game. It gives the players a break on an already fast game.
Still keep the shot clock and I'd add that if you want to stop the clock by forming the scrum, the platers in the scrum when clock is stopped must stay in when play starts
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 36015 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg |
|
| Quote: Redscat "a046.gif ![]()
In reply, you scoff but to be fair RL has been changing the rules consistently since it began. If we hadn’t you’d be watching RU, is that what you want? Yes we get it wrong at times and in recent years it’s been a bit to often but all the same it drives the game. 
To me RU is a game for nerds who love rules and regulation, RL is for those who wish to be entertained. With that comes an element of dumbing down or simplification depending how you see it but it’s still way better than kick and clap.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 17938 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2011 | 13 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif |
|
| Quote: Redscat "a046.gif ![]()
Not sure if anyone has mentioned speeding up the game, most comments are around scrums not really being missed and how not having them, may help RL with its own identity.
I think there is work to be done on how to allow some breaks in play. The current situation with the "shot clock" counting down while the markers deliberately wait doesn't look great but, lets face it, scrums have been a joke in all of the 40+ years that I've been watching.
EVERY scrum is "fed" (in both League and Union) so, what's the point.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Moderator | 20482 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg |
Moderator
|
| Quote: vastman "In reply, you scoff but to be fair RL has been changing the rules consistently since it began. If we hadn’t you’d be watching RU, is that what you want? Yes we get it wrong at times and in recent years it’s been a bit to often but all the same it drives the game. ![]()
I don't share your view on Union. Its a great game to play steeped in history with a great social scene attached to it. It is marketed perfectly and has a massive international following.
And rugby has Laws not Rules.
It's just different to League. I far prefer league to watch but Union is enjoyable too.
Having more complex rules doesn't make it for nerds.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 3182 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
14887_1622315122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14887.jpg |
|
|
I think scrums should go but shot clock time reduced too
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Captain | 2919 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2015 | 9 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: vastman "In reply, you scoff but to be fair RL has been changing the rules consistently since it began. If we hadn’t you’d be watching RU, is that what you want? Yes we get it wrong at times and in recent years it’s been a bit to often but all the same it drives the game. ![]()
Agree with both paragraphs, particularly the second, up to a point, but it seems to me that there appears to be a rule change at the start of every season with particular emphasis on "speeding up the game". At what point does rugby league become not rugby league anymore.. I've been watching rl since the mid-fifties and ,yes, the game has speeded up a hell of a lot but in my eye it does not make it any more of an exciting spectacle than it was 65 years ago. The winning of the scrum was an integral part of the procedure of the game; we still had the speed and excitement of a winger going full tilt for the line, and the ducking and weaving of the no. 6 and no.7. I think possibly one of the the biggest differences between the game of today and yesteryear is the fitness of the players. The game today just seems to be a case of what the Aussies do today we have to (try and) do tomorrow.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
