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Quote: upthecats "Well the unbiased experts...the bookies...are giving us 20 start.

So basically what they do is look at the game through neutral/unbiased eyes and look at the two squads and standings of the two clubs and see Warrington as strong favourites....

If we give it a decent dig like last week and say lose by 16 it will be a good effort all things considered...it will not stop the usual suspects coming on saying sack the coach it’s 5/26 or whatever...we’re not fit enough...forwards are too soft...we need an organising half back...sack the conditioner...sack Chesters assistants...bring back John Kear...

Have I missed anything?'"


You missed "that's the worst performance I've ever seen and I've been watching since 1908."

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Quote: upthecats "Well the unbiased experts...the bookies...are giving us 20 start.

So basically what they do is look at the game through neutral/unbiased eyes and look at the two squads and standings of the two clubs and see Warrington as strong favourites....

If we give it a decent dig like last week and say lose by 16 it will be a good effort all things considered...it will not stop the usual suspects coming on saying sack the coach it’s 5/26 or whatever...we’re not fit enough...forwards are too soft...we need an organising half back...sack the conditioner...sack Chesters assistants...bring back John Kear...

Have I missed anything?'"


Last week was a step in the right direction. Just want us to throw the ball around a bit more. Nothing to lose now.

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Quote: try scorer "Folk are allowed to criticise when they see rubbish in front of them and no they wouldn't criticise if they won every game simple'"


Really???
I recall posters on here did even when we were on a winning run....

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Quote: little wayne69 "Criticism or praise how does having an opinion make you an expert on here.'"


I dont see where BLM appears or calls himself an "expert"

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Quote: PopTart "You missed "that's the worst performance I've ever seen and I've been watching since 1908."'"

I was at the HJS for the game in June last year, and it was that bad of a game that it felt like it had started in the year 1945 rather than the time on a 24 hr clock. Should it take place on Sunday, I just hope that it's a better quality game, as both sides are capable of so much more than they showed that evening.

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It's ok to say fans will come on here and slate them .If they are like me ,I have got peed of with the excuse off injury for the last 2 year It's been a case off rushing players back before they are fit so making the next injury long term .Mr Chester was ask to leave HKR because most of the squad was injured and that was after a close season to get them fit .Is quick fix this season was to bring players in we did not need.most pass S L standed, alot of them are now injured ,and contracted to us for one to two more year

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Quote: BarnsleyGull "I dont see where BLM appears or calls himself an "expert"'"

Read his post again, then you will see I never said he was an expert, then read my post again where I asked if heaping praise or criticism on any sort of opinion made you an expert, and can I just say that I don't mean you personally. HTH.

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Quote: little wayne69 "Criticism or praise how does having an opinion make you an expert on here.'"

That’s my point, it doesn’t but some have agendas against everyone involved with the running of the club when finances dictate

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Quote: Big lads mate "That’s my point, it doesn’t but some have agendas against everyone involved with the running of the club when finances dictate'"

Agree about agendas but some on here can't see owt wrong with performances even when it's crap

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Quote: try scorer "Agree about agendas but some on here can't see owt wrong with performances even when it's crap'"

I’m not defending the performances TS I too was screaming at the telly but I know, again some have agendas one way or another

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Quote: PopTart "You missed "that's the worst performance I've ever seen and I've been watching since 1908."'"



Have you ever thought of replacing those worn out rose-coloured glasses, PT, and changing them for some good ones?

Just how bad do we have to continuously perform before you think that maybe it is time for a change of coaching and training staff? Genuine question.

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If the bad performance was an exception that’s fine but unfortunately it is now becoming the norm. We are fast approaching another Webster end of season. If we lose heavily Sunday then it is down to us for playing when it probably could have been postponed.
I accept that some on here will accept a bad performance for what it is but it is those supporters who don’t follow the forum what will they think and how many will believe they have much better things to do than watch a basically boring team losing every week.
I have to admire both Salford and Hull KR who have taken the decision to play attractive rugby. I know they may lose but they do receive plaudits for giving it a go and Salford even won and were entertaining in doing so.
How many of you actually find the way we now play acceptable?

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "If the bad performance was an exception that’s fine but unfortunately it is now becoming the norm. We are fast approaching another Webster end of season. If we lose heavily Sunday then it is down to us for playing when it probably could have been postponed.
I accept that some on here will accept a bad performance for what it is but it is those supporters who don’t follow the forum what will they think and how many will believe they have much better things to do than watch a basically boring team losing every week.
I have to admire both Salford and Hull KR who have taken the decision to play attractive rugby. I know they may lose but they do receive plaudits for giving it a go and Salford even won and were entertaining in doing so.
How many of you actually find the way we now play acceptable?'"


Let's face it. You won't like it whatever they do.
Clearly we are struggling but that is the time to support in my opinion.

I like the way we attempt to play and we get plenty of plaudits for entertaining rugby.

Even when we were cut down with injuries we tried to throw it around. We just need some fit players back and and a run of games together.

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Quote: Redscat "Have you ever thought of replacing those worn out rose-coloured glasses, PT, and changing them for some good ones?

Just how bad do we have to continuously perform before you think that maybe it is time for a change of coaching and training staff? Genuine question.'"


I could just as easily ask you when you will be realistic about our money and our injuries.
I'm not against change and I think we could certainly change some players and backroom staff but we don't have the money to do it and I've seen this same team and coach hammer some top teams and I don't want to bale out every time they have a bad run.
I believe sticking together as a team and supporting them is more important than going back to just changing coaches every year and starting with a new team every year.

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Quote: Redscat "Have you ever thought of replacing those worn out rose-coloured glasses, PT, and changing them for some good ones?

Just how bad do we have to continuously perform before you think that maybe it is time for a change of coaching and training staff? Genuine question.'"



Have you ever thought of stopping moaning and get behind and support the club?

The 58-0 is certainly getting some getting over because other than that we’ve not been bad this season.

No-one on here accepted that as any kind of performance and neither did the coaching staff.

Other than that though have things really been that bad?

A one point defeat to Wigan on our first game back...

A golden point loss at home to big spending aHull who can just go and sign three big stars from the NRL we could only dream of...

An away win at Salford who were grand finalists last year and coached by Ian Watson who everyone seems to think is some kind of coaching great.

A home win over a star studded Warrington side packed full of big names.

A loss at Cas (what’s new) but a better performance than the bare result suggested...we played really well first half to go in ahead but the game turned on a harsh sin binning that saw Cas register two converted tries while we were a man short...a gap we couldn’t recover from...

First game...yes a disappointing defeat at HKR...

On the whole though I wouldn’t say those results are anywhere near as bad as the doom and gloomers on here would have you believe!

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