Ditto. You have to wonder if we are not going to back our own when faced with a situation like this when are we? For the sake of one or two weeks it seems a pointless signing when we have lads like your young 'un, Jack Croft and Connor Bailey waiting for a chance. Seems at times the clubs commitment to it's youth is just soundbites.

Ak ok, apologies

As young as he is (20?) I would class him as an experienced Super League player. He irritates the hell out of me because he generally looks decent when I see Shudds on the TV. Maybe Shudds need him to get some game time and Ken Davey is footing the bill? Lets see how the next few games pan out before we start sobbing.

I guess he's not cup tied then?

Wondered the same myself. Mind you, Shudds wont be needing him for their cup run

They might have a good future in the game but it won't be for this club, as an outsider it's not your fault you don't understand why as you put the poster you responded to is so enraged.

He’s played 26 Super league games and scored 8 tries. He’s not cup tied he’s big tall strong and fast.

Frankly I wouldn’t lend your whinging lot ‘Jack Shit’ but he’ll put a whole lot more effort in for you than some of your current lot did against Catalans.

Just don’t ‘slag’ the lad off too much he’s a good young player and will give you 110%

Not sure what the issue is with people thinking he's taking a kids place.
We are so down on numbers that even if Senior plays we'll still be playing Croft.

I see the back line now as

1 Hampshire
2 Senior
3 Atkins
4 Croft
5 Tupou
6 Miller
7 Jowitt

I don't think we have anyone else who could reasonably fill the wing spot with the list we have out.

I do understand where you’re coming from but I honestly don’t think your boy or any of them are ready. Not more than a few first team games between them. I know Senior is hardly a seasoned pro but if you’re honest he’s still a fair way ahead.

Don’t get me wrong, if we looked half decent and we were not knee deep in injuries I’d welcome the youngsters getting a run. However at the moment it’s probably a good thing they don’t even if it doesn’t seem like it.

I hope the above is how CC sees it, sadly I can’t quite get the thought that he’s in panic mode out of my head. As I say I’m convinced it’s not the right time to blood youngsters, I’m less convinced that this lad is quite what we need.

We will see soon enough.

Let’s be honest here - I saw more effort from Jarrod bloody Hickey than from most of the team last week.

Although you’re clearly here to annoy and are being somewhat over defensive I sadly have to agree. He’s a good player and well advanced on what we have.

However some posters are not whinging, we really are pee poor when it comes to youngsters and at the moment we are better than usual, so people have a right to be concerned.

Let’s be honest you didn’t, no need to re-write history.

What you need chief is a filter fitting between your brain and your mouth, shudds have loaned him to us to give him game time nothing more, I doubt very much if he'll end up here full time, a Cas fan commented on the outrage of a Wakey fan regarding bringing a loan player in and it has since been explained to him the cause of the upset, if he puts in half as much effort for us as you have trying to cause mischief then we'll be a lot happier than you seem to be.

I think though your first paragraph is the crux of the problem. Innes Senior (and his twin brother) are a little ahead of players like Croft & Greensmith but why is that? It’s because they got the first team exposure when Huddersfield had injuries. They didn’t go out picking players out of other teams squads, they backed their own and are now reaping the rewards. And lets be honest the Giants were hardly a team at the top of their game then either. Fact is Senior is more advanced but i believe at least a year younger than both Croft & Greensmith. Obviously different players mature at different rates but this is a recurring theme with us and it is a massive bug bear of mine. It’s always the Jowitts, the Crowthers or the Batchelors of the squad that seem to be the fall guys. It’s a coaches easy way out. He’s proved he doesn’t give then runs in the team when things are going well. He’s proved he doesn’t play them when thing are going badly. When is he going to give them a chance?

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You are spot on the Seniors,Wardle,Wilson ,Russell,Wood,English,Kirby and Hewitt all have played numerous Super League games due to our injury crisis of last season and the one before. They are all still young men and although we got some pastings it has stood us in good stead moving forward as they can all be called on now to play without any worries about how they are going to perform. The only down side was last season as they were asked to play week in and week out which is no good for lads of their age. I am sure Innes will give you 100% if he is selected he is a good lad. I wish you all the best for the weekend against Catalan I am sure you can put last week behind you and get a result ,Good Luck