Unless Toronto make some big signings (and apparently they won't) they must be favourites to go down.
Unless of course they change the rules mid season.

It is what it is and will hopefully give them something to prove.; it is amazing how one season finishing 9th due to be the most injury hit team in the league, makes us in the opinion of the bookies to finish even worse.
People have short memories in Sport & forget what progress Trinity were making up until we were 3rd in the league this season completely unraveled.

It's amazing that Toronto are higher than a fair number of experienced SL Clubs but yet they haven't signed a soul yet and when you look at their squad, I'd have Hull and Hudds ahead atm.

I'll be waiting until Betfair stick their odds up and lay Wakefield to finish bottom if the price is any good.

Sporting index prices for the drop below:

Huddersfield Giants
7/2
Hull Kingston Rovers
7/2
Wakefield Trinity
4/1
Salford Red Devils
5/1
Toronto Wolfpack
5/1
Leeds Rhinos
20/1
Castleford Tigers
20/1
Catalans Dragons
20/1
Hull FC
40/1
Warrington Wolves
200/1
Wigan Warriors
200/1
St Helens
200/1

Think 8 or 9 is about right .Think a lot will depend on what the coaches have learnt from last season .If we pick up injurys in the forwards we can replace and not lose to much power . But over all a few injury to the backs and I think we will struggle to get any higher

Top 5 is a very realistic target. Happy with the signings so far, and hopefully more to come. Just need a bit of luck with injuries this year.

10th/11th

They have TWP finishing above Cas,believe it or not.
The odds had Cas fifth from bottom with TWP one place above in sixth.
Salford were odds showing fourth from bottom, one above Wakefield.
Leeds above Cas, then Hull FC finishing in top four in fourth position, Warrington above them to finish third, Wigan above Wire to finish second in table and finally Saints to finish top with odds of 200 to one on getting relegated.
I'm not a betting man and don't gamble, so God knows how they work out the odds.

They set them up so that whatever the outcome they make a bit of money.

You can’t really expect Saints to fall that far in one season do you?

Anything from 5/12 next season, hopefully 5th
A decent cup run would be great

I think 10th.

hope 5th.

8th is realistic. I have based this on the opinion that 4 teams will have weaker squads than ours.
Huddersfield . Don't rate their coach and recruitment is very hit and miss
Salford. Great coach but lost their best player and a few others not replaced by same quality
Hull KR mainly recruiting from lower league apart from Shaun Kenny-Dowell
Toronto very late in recruiting . Current squad only championship standard .Even with a few big money Aussies they will take a few weeks to settle in and travelling will take it out of them although no doubt Phil Clarke will be tipping them to win the Grand Final and Trinity to be relegated.

We need Clark to tip us to do badly, it's only when he says that we will do well that we struggle

Got to have 3 aims for the season:

1. top 5 finish
2. CC semi - final
3. Beat cas

2 and 3 would be okay, and if we were safe and had a shout of top 5 with 4 or 5 weeks to go i'd take that.

As said Salford have a very good coaching set up also the guy at H K R as had a lot of success at different clubs in S L and play's good football . Just hope this season we pass the ball better ,move up faster when defending , and forwards take the ball running hard when attacking .As said I would be very happy with 8th