I've blanked London from my memory!

And when I checked Sky Sports fixtures I didn't realise they were in reverse order!!

I'll get my coat.........

Last season? London away was our first game of the season.

I've a feeling that Toronto's first home game may be against St Helens. Reigning champions visit to start the season with a bang, plenty of marketing to get a big crowd so the RFL can say they were justified in allowing Toronto in.
On the other hand they may think that giving them Wakefield or HKR is giving them a 'free hit' to get off the mark with two points. If that's the case let's hope we do 'em over by plenty.

Their first home game is gonna be in April apparently so can't be a season opener.

Saints wont visit Toronto for the first game of the season, although Toronto could visit Saints.
I dont think they can/will play any actual home games until mid - end April.
Their first "proper" home fixture played in Toronto this season was 28th April.

Unless climate change really kicks in before next season, it's too damn cold over there until April.

IIRC, they are playing their fixtures in blocks of 2 home then 2 away (or visa versa)
Therefore, I would expect them to start with two away fixtures, which would mean that their 3rd and 4th home games could actually be played in Toronto ?

Although I still dont believe that they "fit" into SL - a 7000 mile round trip for the weekly fixtures is just crazy, Toronto is a great city to visit and it makes Leeds look like Fev

As far as playing the newly promoted sides, we didn't get Hudds in 2003, or Salford in 2004, or Leigh in 2005, or Cas in 2006, or Hull KR in 2007, or Harlequins in 2008, or Crusaders in 2009 or leigh 2017.
We got Hull KR in 2007, Widnes in 2012, Hull KR in 2018 & London 2019.
So only one in the 2000's but 3 this decade so far.

I turn 50 next year, so am spending the entire year giving absolutely no $h1ts about anything, including the kids inheritance; on that basis, I might see if a trip to Toronto is do-able.

Only 50

Just looked at average climates in Toronto for April.

Still very cold and wet, without putting a downer on a potential away game in April we don't seem to play wet weather rugby very well these days.

Hoping we don't get them first to be honest

I know but the site I visited (Betfred) said Cas played them first, but yeah I thought it was the first game of the season, I remain confused.

Stick with me mate.

We were definitely the first game for them, away at Trailfinders.
A tough one to forget and whilst not as bad a day as the dreaded "cardgate" game at Brentford a few years ago, it was a truly awful performance, especially from being 12 - 0 in front after 10 minutes.
Definitely one that you want to forget but, it's like hearing the first thing on the radio in the morning, you just cant get it out of your head.

Based on the loop fixtures and presuming it stays the same next year, we will have 2 away games vs toronto.

Though it has been confirmed no club will go to Canada twice.

We therefore may have 1 "away" game early in the season - on the road, Toronto have talked about Copenhagen/Dublin/ Other cities as possibilities, we may then get an away game in Toronto towards the end of the year,

We will have to see.

Maybe Dublin and Copenhagen then? Promising to be a great season of awY travel.

We also played opening games for HJ stadium and the old Sheffield stadium pre SL we do seem to get our fair share of these type of games. Think there may have been another one as well.