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| Quote: TrinTrin "Sandal cat is right about the trigger size but misses the point, cllr Box allowed Yorkcourt to dodge the trigger size by building above scale to a height obtrusive to the whole area & it's residents. Only when it was just about built did the facts become know'n. When questioned about permitting this his stance was he could not stop it and the area cover was under the trigger point, even had they have built over the sized trigger point - the council could not enforce the unilateral 106 agreement.
As my previous post, that was simply not true ! The council could have placed a stop notice that the Newcold scheme was not correct & to the original scheme aggregated as per Sec of State permission had understood & granted. Then Yorkcourt faced with that stop notice have a choice - to appeal which the council would have turned down leaving them to apply to the Secretary of state. BINGO, sorted one way or the other.
Newcold wanted the floor space & so could have agreed to build past the figure stated. Quite rightly Yorkcourt could have said no deal to Newcold but then the situation - message sent out to anyone interested there is a problem to this site. Not something Yorkcourt would have wanted when trying to develop a site & maintain cashflow.
The whole problem comes back to our so called council leader having an agenda to not deliver - something now recognized by our MP.
As I have stated, either there is collusion to not deliver or it - the situation has suited both parties, let's not make excuses for them, the two parties.
They are dis-in-genuine, if you are genuine, then you would get on with things - deliver & let your good name bring in more business.
R.I.BA. Have a plan of work document that runs from Quote, " inception to completion, completion
Dont think I have missed the point.
The Council could not issue a stop notice on Newcold once they had granted consent provided it was constructed in accordance with that consent. Their error was in passing it but we all have our own opinions on why they did which I wont share on here but I think they may have acted Ultra Vires.
The current application is what we have been waiting for as it opens up the possibility of legal challenges. The Council are caught between a rock and a hard place. Approve it and risk a Judicial Review or refuse it and face an appeal to the Planning Inspectorate, the very body Yorkcourt promised the stadium to.
Our Lawyers have been instructed and are on the case.
Like you I'm a professional having worked on big regeneration projects such as Newmarket and with numerous Developers and I would suggest that rather than us discussing matters on here it would be useful and advantageous for us to have a chat. Could you please sent me a PM and he we can speak directly with each other.
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| Yes, I meant it to be placed at point of request & it is a power to the council,sorry for any confusion on my part, I made it look like after building when I was merely stating the leader's comments after the furore & that cllr Box could have judged the situation & used the powers open to them by using a stop notice at the correct time which I did not make clear, but I am always willing to concede points unlike our council.
With regard to discussing points away from the attention of our supporters then no, there has been far too much schh - were doing something, don't tell them, our supporters & public. I can agree that some times information needs to be retained, if sensitive but not all the time which has helped to mislead people as our two so called partners have done.
With these two, I consider that if you have truth & integrity + openness , public supporters are not left frustrated, better not to take part in their type of behaviour. They can however start again & be open, this would start to create faith & confidence, but it's a lot to pull back now.
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| As a rate payer & trinity season ticket holder let's be open in discussing matters.
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| There's a good reason our opposition don't release details relating to their past, current or future intentions.
Place your trust in the people we have fighting our corner and don't ask for stupid concessions on an open public forum that could prejudice our position, just because you wanna know what's going on.
I would imagine everything that can be disclosed safely, has been, and they wouldn't be very good at their job if they came here leaking info and giving the opposition free ammunition.
Quite frankly.....never mind....3 days in the cooler
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| Quote: Joe Banjo "As a rate payer & trinity season ticket holder let's be open in discussing matters.'"
Surely no one expects the Trust to discuss on a public forum information that may be of use to us if we do end up in the High Court.
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| Quote: TrinTrin "Yes, I meant it to be placed at point of request & it is a power to the council,sorry for any confusion on my part, I made it look like after building when I was merely stating the leader's comments after the furore & that cllr Box could have judged the situation & used the powers open to them by using a stop notice at the correct time which I did not make clear, but I am always willing to concede points unlike our council.
With regard to discussing points away from the attention of our supporters then no, there has been far too much schh - were doing something, don't tell them, our supporters & public. I can agree that some times information needs to be retained, if sensitive but not all the time which has helped to mislead people as our two so called partners have done.
With these two, I consider that if you have truth & integrity + openness , public supporters are not left frustrated, better not to take part in their type of behaviour. They can however start again & be open, this would start to create faith & confidence, but it's a lot to pull back now.'"
Not wanting to discuss matters that we would keep from supporters in the fullness of time but you are giving the impression that you are a professional and knowledgeable in the matter to hand and I just thought you may be able to assist the Trust.
When you are likely to be in a court of law you do not show the opposition what you have in your hand.
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| Quote: Upanunder "There's a good reason our opposition don't release details relating to their past, current or future intentions.
Place your trust in the people we have fighting our corner and don't ask for stupid concessions on an open public forum that could prejudice our position, just because you wanna know what's going on.
I would imagine everything that can be disclosed safely, has been, and they wouldn't be very good at their job if they came here leaking info and giving the opposition free ammunition.
Quite frankly.....never mind....3 days in the cooler'"
Totally agree.
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| Well, wait for the submit & share to the court, over to good full barristers then, it usually takes 12 to 18 months to a hearing but most cases resolve on the 11th hour or as they say on the court entrance steps.
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| Quote: TrinTrin "Well, wait for the submit & share to the court, over to good full barristers then, it usually takes 12 to 18 months to a hearing but most cases resolve on the 11th hour or as they say on the court entrance steps.'"
These are the words of a self appointed expert, so excuse me if I put you on ignore - thanks.
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| No problem, I never said I was an expert, I have only tried to explain issues, I also have no problem in ever being wrong or proved wrong, I also like all other opinions, that's the healthy way to learn. I do think our forum has a wide range of opinions & certainly the best humour.
Up the Trin.
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