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| Agree Adam. Doesn't run from d.h. enough.
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| Quote: metallicat "Agree Adam. Doesn't run from d.h. enough.'"
Neither does Cameron Smith, but he is just not that type of hooker.
Wood really has been in outstanding attacking form but will always be targeted by the opposition in defense as he is very light weight, not to say he does not tackle well, for his size I think he does, but Randell definitely tightens the defense up when he comes onto the field.
I have seen some good tactical reads from Randell, he has a good kicking game and I think we need to take advantage of that a lot more.
Two different types of players, posters like NGBC obviously have a very limited understanding of the game if they do not understand the qualities Randell brings to the team.
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| He is just not good enough, couldn't get a game with the Knights when they were bottom of the pile and I said this when we signed him...there were better options available at the time. If it's so easy for woody coming off the bench let's swap them round and see if randall has the same impact - i guarantee he won't!! It might mean we don't gift the opposition 20 points start that we have to begin clawing back when woody comes on tho
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| Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "I like Randell. Solid every game and consistent. Good distribution mostly. Would like to see him run from dummy half a bit more but he's a good player.'"
I agree Adam, I'm a big fan of Randell. I too would like to see him scoot some more, he showed on his debut what he can do to a tired defence so he set our expectations for the type of player he might be. Overall though Randell and Wood are like chalk and cheese, both very good in their own way but offer something different to the team although playing the same position.
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| If Randal made a brilliant debut coming on and scooting from dummy half and something Woodie does now, could we assume that the scooting part is more effective with tiring defences???
They both appear to play a different style which keeps things varied.
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| I agree with a lot of views on Randell here. Definitely needs to run
at the line far more has he is dangerous. Not sure why he's stopped. I do also agree he has slipped backwards if he carries on this averageness I don't think he's worth a quota
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| I am a big fan tbh he defends well, has a bit of a kicking game and does the ugly stuff setting a platform for Wood to build on. But I must agree on the part about the quota spot, if his deal was up at the end of this year I would probably say he hasn't done enough to earn a renewal.
I do think he will improve next year, a full year with the squad and currently enjoying a decent injury free run in the side.
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| The thing is, he is playing the tougher role of the two hookers.
If he played the bench role I'd say he would do more running at the line and break.
I'm sure he is following the game plan playing the way he is right now.
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| Quote: PopTart "The thing is, he is playing the tougher role of the two hookers.
If he played the bench role I'd say he would do more running at the line and break.
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I also considered that point but then looked at the evidence to support it.
As far as I saw it, for well over the first half of the season we saw Randell starting and doing all or most of first half. Then around half time on comes Woody and the intensity and speed rises another gear. Woody is then taken off after about 20/25 minutes and Randell returns for the last quarter. The defence is now obviously tired but still he doesn't scoot or keep things lively.
I will say it again, he is not a bad player and earns his place in the team. But value for money is very questionable.
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| Quote: PopTart "The thing is, he is playing the tougher role of the two hookers.
If he played the bench role I'd say he would do more running at the line and break.
I'm sure he is following the game plan playing the way he is right now.'"
Do we actually have a game plan?
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| Quote: Prince Buster "I also considered that point but then looked at the evidence to support it.
As far as I saw it, for well over the first half of the season we saw Randell starting and doing all or most of first half. Then around half time on comes Woody and the intensity and speed rises another gear. Woody is then taken off after about 20/25 minutes and Randell returns for the last quarter. The defence is now obviously tired but still he doesn't scoot or keep things lively.
I will say it again, he is not a bad player and earns his place in the team. But value for money is very questionable.'"
How do we know his value for money if we don`t know how much he is payed? I remember an interview with MC a few years back talking about how he had seen so much about a certain overseas player been over paid and not worth his salary yet he was nowhere near one of the top earners and certainly not what had been thrown about on here, it was all based on assumptions. At the end of the day only the club and the player themselves know for certain what there pay package and the rest is hear say.
At this point if Randell was out of contract at the end of the season along with Arona and we needed the quota spot I would probably rather keep Arona.
When it comes to Randell I wonder if Chester has ever thought about giving him a run in the halves? He has played quite a lot there throughout his career, from what I have seen he has good direction, good distribution and has a good long kicking game which is something we are lacking massively!
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| Couldn't agree more there Homme Vaste.
For all we know, we may already have that nippy organising half in our possession, who can get us around the pitch. He just isn't playing in that role.
Also very true, regarding salaries, we can only presume and speculate, but the truth of the matter, there will only be very few people who will know what kind of salary he is on.
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| Quote: homme vaste "How do we know his value for money if we don`t know how much he is payed? '"
Yes you are correct I don't know his salary. However I do know he is the highest paid player at the club and that is what I base his 'value' on.
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| Quote: Prince Buster "Yes you are correct I don't know his salary. However I do know he is the highest paid player at the club and that is what I base his 'value' on.'"
You know that how?
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| How exactly do you know that? surely big Dave would be our highest earner, anyhow I think with Randell the question is more is he worth a quota spot
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