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Quote: vastman "Are you for real, what a silly post.
I have Supported Trinity for 44 years i have also played i talk to many people supporters and past players and i have my opinion just like you if you think Finn is good enough fair play I and many others i talk to do not he is too old too slow and i doubt he would get into any other SL side other than Widnes
We have a good pack real pace and quality in the threequarters but for me scrum half is the weak link and that is with all due respect to the man

but vastman is always right

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "I have Supported Trinity for 44 years i have also played i talk to many people supporters and past players and i have my opinion just like you if you think Finn is good enough fair play I and many others i talk to do not he is too old too slow and i doubt he would get into any other SL side other than Widnes
We have a good pack real pace and quality in the threequarters but for me scrum half is the weak link and that is with all due respect to the man

but vastman is always right'"


I think at this moment in time we are a better team with Finn on the pitch, and we were last season when we had an NRL half in Sam Williams in the squad.

Maybe he`s not fashionable as he does not catch the eye, but i dont think there are many halfs in SL that can control a game like Finn can, his organisation and game management skills are second to none and every succesful team needs that.

I think this will be his final season anyway, who will take over that role.. who knows.

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "if hes too slow at hooker what is he at scrum half? good brain yes but cas saw he was limited then will trinity good squad man front line scrum half sorry no'"


Slow - yes, but he salvaged our season last year once we realised that Williams wasnt the solution. He needs replacing, even he will accept that I guess in what will probably be his last season. However, that is the difficult part!

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Quote: Wildcat26 "I think at this moment in time we are a better team with Finn on the pitch, and we were last season when we had an NRL half in Sam Williams in the squad.

Maybe he`s not fashionable as he does not catch the eye, but i dont think there are many halfs in SL that can control a game like Finn can, his organisation and game management skills are second to none and every succesful team needs that.

I think this will be his final season anyway, who will take over that role.. who knows.'"

About to say similar. We brought Williams over from the NRL and gave him the chance to show what he could do, but apart from the odd game he never really was consistent or showed his NRL form. When it came to the business end, especially when Miller came back from the broken leg we had him & Finn playing together. Says something about Finn when Williams has walked straight back into a new contract with Canberra.

As for talking to old players, if you listened to Gary Schofield, like him or not he certainly knows how to play halfback and also isn't afraid to call it as he sees it & he raved about Finn's game just about all last year.

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "I have Supported Trinity for 44 years i have also played i talk to many people supporters and past players and i have my opinion just like you if you think Finn is good enough fair play I and many others i talk to do not he is too old too slow and i doubt he would get into any other SL side other than Widnes
We have a good pack real pace and quality in the threequarters but for me scrum half is the weak link and that is with all due respect to the man

but vastman is always right'"


Nothing to do with me being right, it just is right - that's why CC keeps picking him!

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "but vastman is always right'"


He most certainly isn't always right - but he is on this occasion.

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So if Chris Chester doesn't think that position needed improving last season ! Why did he sign Sam Williams?

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Finn has done just fine for us the last two years. Much better than I hoped when he was signed.

Shame it didn't work out for Sam Williams and he put some good shifts in, just never 'clicked' for him.

Really excited to see what young Hampshire can can bring to the table. Had that Leeds left side on the back foot 2nd half on Boxing Day

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Quote: cheshirecat57 "So if Chris Chester doesn't think that position needed improving last season ! Why did he sign Sam Williams?'"


Maybe he thought that Williams would improve what we had but, change his mind as the season went on.
Or, maybe he has someone else in his sights ?

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Quote: cheshirecat57 "So if Chris Chester doesn't think that position needed improving last season ! Why did he sign Sam Williams?'"


Same reason he signed Hampshire - its's called back up - not meaning to sound sarcastic but it's not a new phenomenon.

Also why do you assume Williams was signed as first choice over Finn or Miller, as far as I was concerned he was competition.

Personally I think Hampshire will force his way into the HB's however I don't necessarily believe it will be at Finns expense. Just my opinion.

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Quote: bren2k "He most certainly isn't always right - but he is on this occasion.'"


I am always right you know I am icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: vastman "Same reason he signed Hampshire - its's called back up - not meaning to sound sarcastic but it's not a new phenomenon.

Also why do you assume Williams was signed as first choice over Finn or Miller, as far as I was concerned he was competition.

Personally I think Hampshire will force his way into the HB's however I don't necessarily believe it will be at Finns expense. Just my opinion.'"

Can't see any team in super league signing a player that would have been on very good money and taking up a quota spot, As a back up player.

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Quote: vastman "Same reason he signed Hampshire - its's called back up - not meaning to sound sarcastic but it's not a new phenomenon.

Also why do you assume Williams was signed as first choice over Finn or Miller, as far as I was concerned he was competition.

Personally I think Hampshire will force his way into the HB's however I don't necessarily believe it will be at Finns expense. Just my opinion.'"

I honestly haven't a clue why he signed Williams, but what I do know is that a man I know who sponsors a player every season wanted to sponsor Williams last season and was told by the chairman that it would cost him virtually twice the price of anybody else, the main being that as he would be the goal kicker, and the sponsors advertisement would increase significantly.

Maybe that's the assumption that Williams would be first choice.

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Allso worth noting CC picked Williams at scrum half and Finn at hooker for the first game of the season against Hull.fc last season!

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Quote: cheshirecat57 "Can't see any team in super league signing a player that would have been on very good money and taking up a quota spot, As a back up player.'"


Ok change I'll that to competition if that helps you - again why do you assume even if Sam were first choice it was Finn to be dropped. These days H/B and No 9's are interchangeable so to me calling anyone 'first choice' is misleading.

As for the Hull game, wouldn't you want to see how your new signing went and wasn't I don't remember how he used the bench in that game but I can check on Trinity TV and get back to you.

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