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| Quote: Murgan "We need to release a statement and soon, the more the council communicate the better they look and worse we look. This statement makes it sound like we are totally in the wrong and while I'm inclined to not believe them...why would someone who doesn't support us think anything other than we're being awkward?'"
There will be a statement from the Club and Trust when we are ready but remember the earlier Club statement regarding taking legal advice which is happening and will shape what we do next.
Just remember to beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
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| Quote: Prince Buster "What a load of tosh. None of this stacks up at all. Do they honestly think Yorkcourt are going to pay one penny towards it with their track record. The only way Yorkcourt can be tempted to get involved if they get more planning at Newmarket, then Bingo!! we can go at them once they make that move.
Are 88G going to pay, are they hell.
The council have said they are skint. If they have now found the money to pay for a stadium, why build it on someone elses land ?
They have loads of land of their own which is far better suited and located than trying to make something out of the Belle Vue dump.
The only post for me who really could have something is the one that mentions this may not be what you think. A new stadium could be nothing more than a white fence around a pitch with a couple of bus shelters on the touch line.
One other thing to contemplate. Seems like 88G want MC to sign up to another lease, what happens if he does, how much compensation will they have to pay to turf us off Belle Vue to build a new stadium.'"
If the lease is only for 12 months then nothing.
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| Is no one seeing what I'm seeing?
The statement talks about a community stadium "in the district", not "in the city". There is talk of wanting to build one for Trinity but as we won't agree their terms, they're going to build one anyway, but "in the district". Nowhere does it say that it will be at either Newmarket or Belle Vue.
Isn't the Cas stadium faltering slightly? Isn't this the Cas fans on Wakefield Council deciding to build Cas a stadium?
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "Is no one seeing what I'm seeing?
The statement talks about a community stadium "in the district", not "in the city". There is talk of wanting to build one for Trinity but as we won't agree their terms, they're going to build one anyway, but "in the district". Nowhere does it say that it will be at either Newmarket or Belle Vue.
Isn't the Cas stadium faltering slightly? Isn't this the Cas fans on Wakefield Council deciding to build Cas a stadium?'"
Personally the fact that 88m are involved and own the ground and Hussein is the one giving an actual quote makes me think it's Belle Vue.
I think they're trying to get the fans to turn on MC personally.
Especially when they say
Quote: Slugger McBatt "The club were offered all income on match days, including all ticket sales, all banquet, restaurant and bars and hospitality boxes. The club would have priority use of the stadium for match days and full access to the ticket office, bars, restaurants and changing facilities along with day-to-day access to the fitness centre and physiotherapy suite. '"
You know some fans will be asking well how much is this rent they're asking for Trinity to to walk away from that offer and potentially have no club. I know there's a bigger picture to all this, but others don't and some others don't care, they just want to get this finally sorted and not have it constantly in the back ground.
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| And all the while we get involved in a war of words, nothing is built. WMDC provide the much-vaunted community stadium elsewhere, leaving Manni to build his houses on Belle Vue.
I know there are people on here who know whether what is being said is true, but if it is a community stadium, surely we'd only have a right to the income from match-days? The rest of the time is it for the community?
Or is it: low-rent tenants but match-day income only versus commercial rent and all income?
The devil is in the detail, I guess, but even I'm wondering what is so unreasonable in the Council's proposal. What will the non-fan think? Propaganda battle well and truly won by WMDC.
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "Just remember to beware of Greeks bearing gifts.'"
Is the Trojan Horse reference deliberate, or just a turn of phrase?
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| The one thing I would say, being a lawyer, is that most cases start out with an intended and desired outcome. At the last minute, compromises are usually reached. The frustrating thing is always when the compromise reached could have been reached at the outset.
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| This statement has been put out for those widespread members of the community who will think how good WMDC are and how bad that nasty MC and the Stadium Trust are. Uuurgghh!! nasty men. Anyone who believes this load of bunkem from Jeffries is very,very gullible.
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| Why is there a picture of Joyce Temple-Savage on the WMDC web statement?
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| Doesn't read well for the club - We need a statement from the club in the interim while they seek legal advice. Mainly for the citizens of wakefield, who will pick up a copy of the express on Friday with no doubt a front page cover of the news to push on with the stadium with us.
One thing I will say, as messy as it is, at least after 15 years of getting a new ground it's coming to a head. Decisions are being made and it's exciting times ahead.
Up the Trin!!
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| Reading the new WMDC statement a bit more, I'm not surprised the undelined was a bit of a sticking point.
Quote: "However, last week the owners submitted their own ‘heads of terms’ for the deal which insisted they retain sole control over the community stadium’s income and operations, whilst still offering nothing towards the capital costs of the development and refusing to pay a normal commercial rent. '"
Why should the club pay anything towards the stadium, we don't own it, 88m do. It's the same situation we were in when the BOI owned it and we didn't want to spend on something we have no juice in. If 88m want to redevelop and charge us a commercial rent that would be more reasonable
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| Quote: wakefield1990 "We need a statement from the club in the interim while they seek legal advice.'"
No, we really don't!
Like any fan, I'd like to know what's going on, get some reassurance and be able to have some confidence going forward.
However, the only thing that matters now, is that legally we have the high ground and nothing should be done to undermine that. Our cards need to stay firmly face down, until the hand needs to be played.
It feels like everyone's chips are going in...
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| i say good on them for having the balls to say we will build it anyway-88M want something in return for their investments it is their ground not ours we either accept how they want it run or leave . if that don't build a ground they will build houses,
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| Quote: BOJ042 "i say good on them for having the balls to say we will build it anyway-88M want something in return for their investments it is their ground not ours we either accept how they want it run or leave . if that don't build a ground they will build houses,'"
Oh do shut up And leave it to the grown ups as you clearly have no idea what's going on.
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| Quote: dboy "No, we really don't!
Like any fan, I'd like to know what's going on, get some reassurance and be able to have some confidence going forward.
However, the only thing that matters now, is that legally we have the high ground and nothing should be done to undermine that. Our cards need to stay firmly face down, until the hand needs to be played.
It feels like everyone's chips are going in...'"
The money used to fight this case will likely come from revenue brought in by fans on the club side and by rate payers on the council side. Like it or not, the club are losing the public confidence, which means that even if we win, we all lose as rate payers.
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