Agree with that
Why on earth would Finn give a flat pass to Hirst on the last, that was a rare shocker from Finny, keegan shouldn't have being put in that position

Last tackle kicking is one of the only areas we need to massively improve on, williams is woeful in this area

Completely agree. That was awful. Regarding stats, I wouldn't trust them at all. Trin have been known to send them back and get them redone post game before now. I can only go on what I see. Agree about kear, how long was he signed up for? Salford made a big deal about signing up their backeoom staff, hope we do the same.

Really? 'Exceptional'? Funny how we all see things different. I guess the proof will be in if we extend his contract.

I agree, it's funny how we do all see things differently
FWIW my reasons for why I'd use that word to describe him

I had no expectations for keegan what soever, so exceptional relative to expectations might be a better description
His work in defence is really good, in attack he's really sucks the defence in and I'd say is probably the hardest player (next to Fifita) in our team to put down, he nearly always makes more meters after the initial tackle and has enough of an off load game to trouble the defence and give us some second phase play, he uses his size really well and makes it hellish awkward to be tackled

I'd actually put him above England in the pecking order

Agree re proof in contract though, I'm just a spectator, it's the coaches decisions that matter

Happy with Hirst's first season and hope we give him 2nd shot. Think he's going to improve too.

He seems to lose the ball in contact and has struggled with the short ball on occasion but, on the plus side, he's quick, strong as hell in the tackle and has an offload game, which, if we utilise properly, make him a great asset.
He also has some pace, a bit like Richard Moore of old and can disrupt the opposition.

Definitely a keeper !

This for me.

I am not sure if this is a Kear thing, but we rarely ever compete for the ball from our high kicks. Some teams contest every single high ball but we seem to set up defensively and hope the defender drops it.

The reason i think it may be a Kear tactic is that last time he was here we had Danny Brough and did not contest them then either.

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I'm not sure what to make of it either
It could be a kear thing but I'm inclined to say two of our halfs excel in many areas but kicking just doesn't seem to be something we do well

JJB is excellent in the air but rarely gets targeted

One of the things I remember about danny brough when he was here were those amazing shallow angled grubber kicks that use to cause all sorts of probs and mostly lead to a try for us or an opposition drop out, not to mention his bombs, 40/20s and last tackle kicks to get us out of our own half

That to me is the only thing we are missing, every other part of our game really is brilliant
I'm hoping Randal may help improve us in the kicking department

It would all depend on what room we have available on the cap and also what out playing budget will be for 2018. I would though try to retain Williams.

For me hooker is a definate. Hopefully Tyler Randell would be the man.

As someone else earlier mentioned maybe a centre with the Collis style handling skills and also a big second rower in the Murdoch Masilla or Lautiti style. Kirmo getting no younger and the injuries taking longer to heal.

One thing I would consider though, not necessarily immediately would be a player who can play at full back and half back competently. Both Grix and Finn getting no younger and cant go on forever

Jowitt is a competent full back and will be learning off Grix from the organisational side of things

Yes he is more than competent.

I was thinking more as back up and as a potential replacement for Grix and Finn. One who can play in both positions, we could kill two birds with one stone.

A Gareth O Brien type player.

Sign Hadley; a natural replacement for Kirmond.

I'd definitely be keeping Hirst, no question. Gone well for me

Hirst has had a good first season, wasn't expecting much as a mate of mine played along side him and said he had everything except the heart but no sign of that for me, I will be surprised if we don't try and keep him.

Really interesting question...

How to you take a competitive squad and make it better..

In forty years of being a Trinity fan I don't think I've ever considered this question before!!

I don't think I know how!