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| I must be watching different Hirst , don't get me wrong he's developing in a positive manner, but hes not done big game time or started on a regular basis where propping is always tuffer with forwards trying to dominate early on, and to compare him to Alex at saints, he's nowhere near, let's just let him tick along nicely, yes he's doing well, and he deserves a new contract but until he's done longer stints I'm not comparing him to the likes of Huby, fifita, England. Who IMO are still our top 3.
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| Got to say I think that he is showing up really well, I know a lad who played with him and he thought he didn't have the heart for SL, early impressions suggest otherwise.
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| We have some big lads and Keegan is one of them, he has been able to work his way into the team, gathering confidence with every game, rather than being the only big bloke on the team and targeted,so his enthusiasm diminishes?
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| Quote: Willzay "Maybe a bit early to say but Hirst is better than Walmsley IMO. For starters Walmsley can often be lazy and go missing.'"
Give over - Walmsley is one of the best 3 forwards in SL; KH is developing well and will definitely get better, but he's miles behind Walmsley.
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| Quote: Prop9824 "I must be watching different Hirst , don't get me wrong he's developing in a positive manner, but hes not done big game time or started on a regular basis where propping is always tuffer with forwards trying to dominate early on, and to compare him to Alex at saints, he's nowhere near, let's just let him tick along nicely, yes he's doing well, and he deserves a new contract but until he's done longer stints I'm not comparing him to the likes of Huby, fifita, England. Who IMO are still our top 3.'"
I agree some people getting carried away. Can't agree about England though, nowhere near where he was early last year. Thought Allgood looked better. Allgood, Hirst are a threat to England as would Walker have been if not injured.
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| According to CC Walker could be back next week along with Arona. That's good news IMO
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| IMO Mullally was the best front row forward on the field for either team.
I'd have him back tomorrow
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| Quote: The Avenger "IMO Mullally was the best front row forward on the field for either team.
I'd have him back tomorrow'"
He was pretty good, but I thought the big guys softened us up and he took advantage so my credit would go to the big guys Cuthbertson & Garbutt. Good balance of forwards, TBH, but I think we would have matched them if we'd not lost Big Dave.
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| Quote: wakeyrule "He was pretty good, but I thought the big guys softened us up and he took advantage so my credit would go to the big guys Cuthbertson & Garbutt. Good balance of forwards, TBH, but I think we would have matched them if we'd not lost Big Dave.'"
And played Huby
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| Despite all that's been said on this post about either the Leeds forwards or their hooker winning the game for them, the fact is WE could still have won the game had we been a bit smarter!
Like everyone I hate losing to Leeds and slightly more to 'Cas, but I'm over it. We aren't far behind Leeds and Cas just have to keep working and perhaps recruit a smart playmaker ourselves (not really 'hookers' are they?)
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| Quote: Trinity1315 "Despite all that's been said on this post about either the Leeds forwards or their hooker winning the game for them, the fact is WE could still have won the game had we been a bit smarter!
Like everyone I hate losing to Leeds and slightly more to 'Cas, but I'm over it. We aren't far behind Leeds and Cas just have to keep working and perhaps recruit a smart playmaker ourselves (not really 'hookers' are they?)'"
Correct, I'm surprised - actually I probably not - surprised at the amount of bleating on here for what was a 2 point loss after a 7 match winning run - seriously, all teams lose.
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| I think Hirst has done ok but the say he is better or even at the same level to Walmsley is stupid and just plain wrong.
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| Quote: vastman "I agree some people getting carried away. Can't agree about England though, nowhere near where he was early last year. Thought Allgood looked better. Allgood, Hirst are a threat to England as would Walker have been if not injured.'"
Have to disagree, England and fifita when on form are our best forwards, I watched then come off the bench to batter Wigan, again allgood not doing the minutes, England averages 60 mins plus, and his defence is very strong, we look better when he is on with either Huby or big Dave, he's in top 3 for me, until others have the fitness to do more than 10-15 mins spells here and there.
Yes maybe not as influential as last season due to he was our only big forward and carried the forwards, so it's good to see others step up, next few weeks will see with big Dave in the stands, again IMO.
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| Quote: Prop9824 "Have to disagree, England and fifita when on form are our best forwards, I watched then come off the bench to batter Wigan, again allgood not doing the minutes, England averages 60 mins plus, and his defence is very strong, we look better when he is on with either Huby or big Dave, he's in top 3 for me, until others have the fitness to do more than 10-15 mins spells here and there.
Yes maybe not as influential as last season due to he was our only big forward and carried the forwards, so it's good to see others step up, next few weeks will see with big Dave in the stands, again IMO.'"
I stand by what I say. However I rate our entire pack tbh so the position I currently rate England is not a bad thing. He's still very much deserves his spot in the team - it's all relative.
Put it this way even if Fifita wasn't injured it wouldn't take a massive step up from England to displace Dave as number one .
That has to be good for the club - perfect opportunity on Thursday
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| Quote: vastman "Correct, I'm surprised - actually I probably not - surprised at the amount of bleating on here for what was a 2 point loss after a 7 match winning run - seriously, all teams lose.'"
Hope you don't think I'm bleating, thought we pretty much matched Leeds and if a few handling errors hadn't been made we could have beaten them despite missing players and losing Fifita. It's really nice to be watching good rugby and competitive games.
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