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| Quote: bren2k "And therein lies the problem - you will see players moving off the mark many times over the course of a weekend, but it's rarely penalised; he suddenly decided to penalise Fifita for it - and it lead directly to a try, which put Saints back in the game.
The issue with Mr Child, in my view, is that he's liable to penalising a particular player rather than an offence.'"
My main gripe with Child is that he probably knows the rules too much and penalises way too often for minor technical stuff, without applying common sense and letting the game flow to any extent. Basically he spoils a lot of games and turns it into the James Child show, much to its detriment.
Oh and that he always seems to spoil our games far too often.
In a vacuum, the Fifita trundle forward should be penalty. The rough treatment of Fages is borderline but Child will always choose to penalise for borderline stuff. Fifita needs to be smarter in my opinion as he does stand out to refs and the opposition team will play on that.
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| James Child seems to hold a grudge longer than most women do against a certain player or a certain team.
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| I thought he was having an okay game until the second half, when I wondered whether his Saints-loving boss had got in his ear at half-time in the way he did with Roby, the last time (probably) we were ahead against Saints at half-time. The dubious calls seemed to go Saints way after half-time.
To be fair to him though, he could have just ruled out the Miller try. He thought it was a penalty try that would probably give us the game and he asked for it to be checked. if he hadn't have bothered, because he could see that Miller hadn't grounded it, we wouldn't have won.
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| I thought Ganson was no longer on the RL scene?
I also thought the Saints player should have been binned for a professional foul.
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| Well I for one thought Mr Child had a first class game. Only 13 penalties ( 8 to Saints 5 to Trinity ). He allowed the game to flow as much as possible, he instructions were clear. He did not penalize not standing square and offside unless it was obvious. Fafita moning of the mark was a blatant penalty, yes other players moved of the mark but not as much as Fafita did on that occasion, he was running into the defenders. Our coaches need to get him sorted on that area. Yes Mr Child could have blown 30 penalties at least for moving of the mark, that would have wrecked the game, he only gave the most obvious. The way the refs have been instructed to rule on obstruction means that he again made the correct call on the possible Saints obstruction prior to one of their tries. He called the Miller penalty try perfectly, under huge pressure he very professionally ignored the state of the game, the home fans. He called exactly what he saw : no try as Miller got nowhere been allowed to touch the ball down and Please check for a possible penalty try.
All in all a first class performance from Mr Child. A tough job and in those conditions he made some quality decisions. He performance matched our players superb effort. Credit where credit is due.
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| Liked the way he did not sin bin MCB for holding down as well.
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| Still say that the timing of the penalties was designed to cause maximum impact on the game. TBF he could have binned MCB for the holding down penalty - but I dont want to be fair, Ive seen him ref us out of too many games and also cause havoc from the sidelines.
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| Can someone please clarify the exact ruling ??
From what I saw Fifita played the ball correctly and then moved forward, however, as he did so the two Saints markers split and turned back towards their own line. Fifita was nowhere near them at any point and certainly did not make contact with either and then Child blew for the penalty. if he had made contact and impeded them making a tackle then fair enough, but he didn't !!!
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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "Well I for one thought Mr Child had a first class game. Only 13 penalties ( 8 to Saints 5 to Trinity ). He allowed the game to flow as much as possible, he instructions were clear. He did not penalize not standing square and offside unless it was obvious. Fafita moning of the mark was a blatant penalty, yes other players moved of the mark but not as much as Fafita did on that occasion, he was running into the defenders. Our coaches need to get him sorted on that area. Yes Mr Child could have blown 30 penalties at least for moving of the mark, that would have wrecked the game, he only gave the most obvious. The way the refs have been instructed to rule on obstruction means that he again made the correct call on the possible Saints obstruction prior to one of their tries. He called the Miller penalty try perfectly, under huge pressure he very professionally ignored the state of the game, the home fans. He called exactly what he saw
You are obviously not on message. Child hates Wakey & does his utmost to ensure they lose every game while deliberately winding up the speccies.
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| We have only won 5 out of the last 25 games that he has refereed. For whatever reason his 'style ' doesn't suit our players...
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| Quote: Wakefield No 1 "We have only won 5 out of the last 25 games that he has refereed. For whatever reason his 'style ' doesn't suit our players...'"
We have probably won around 5 out of the last 25 games full stop.
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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "Well I for one thought Mr Child had a first class game. Only 13 penalties ( 8 to Saints 5 to Trinity ). He allowed the game to flow as much as possible, he instructions were clear. He did not penalize not standing square and offside unless it was obvious. Fafita moning of the mark was a blatant penalty, yes other players moved of the mark but not as much as Fafita did on that occasion, he was running into the defenders. Our coaches need to get him sorted on that area. Yes Mr Child could have blown 30 penalties at least for moving of the mark, that would have wrecked the game, he only gave the most obvious. The way the refs have been instructed to rule on obstruction means that he again made the correct call on the possible Saints obstruction prior to one of their tries. He called the Miller penalty try perfectly, under huge pressure he very professionally ignored the state of the game, the home fans. He called exactly what he saw
Your best wind up ever
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| Quote: tigertot "You are obviously not on message. Child hates Wakey & does his utmost to ensure they lose every game while deliberately winding up the speccies.'"
and you have fallen for that?
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| The timing of the penalties are what intrigued me most, Sts looked very mech like they were going to score and seize the initiative. We weathered three back to back sets and all was well because it was only a matter of time before Sts scored. We then forced an error and got the ball back, all that Sts pressure and the inevitable try looked like not happening. Then along comes Child with an unbelievable penalty and Sts get the ball back allowing them to continue pressuring our line. TRY and job done!
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| Quote: The Avenger "The timing of the penalties are what intrigued me most, Sts looked very mech like they were going to score and seize the initiative. We weathered three back to back sets and all was well because it was only a matter of time before Sts scored. We then forced an error and got the ball back, all that Sts pressure and the inevitable try looked like not happening. Then along comes Child with an unbelievable penalty and Sts get the ball back allowing them to continue pressuring our line. TRY and job done!'"
Spot on Avenger.
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