13 yes 3 never.

He's not a wonderful player - he was a wonderful player, there is a huge difference.

When did Carney last play really well i.e. anywhere near his true potential?

He's a spent force which is why he can't get an NRL deal and if any SL club takes him on it shows just how bankrupt our comp is. .

Jeez there's now two of them he think that's a good idea

Let's just put Finn on the wing and we are there!

There was talk of the Aussie's like Dave Taylor and others taking the mick out of Catalan, seeing it as an easy party. Dave Taylor's new job in a hotel mentioned him having to face challenges in that job. It sounded like the Aussies there were just getting sloshed all the time. I wonder if Carney's injuries were due to conditioning and too much vino rather than him being crocked.

He wouldn't come to us, because we wouldn't pay him enough, and if we paid him what he wanted he would probably cause resentment in the squad because of it.

Carney would only work at a club in the super league where he was expected to pull his weight and they had the depth to do without him. Somewhere like Wigan. For us, he'd see it as another holiday, albeit a bit chillier.

I now know why I'm glad people like you don't run the club - yep he's a stunning player that's why ever NRL team were desperate to sign him whilst Catalan had a whip round.

You are Belly where is my £5