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Quote: Trinity1315 "Sorry but even when we had good seasons in SL our crowds were generally not good enough for the size of the city. I really mean it when I say Wakefield does not deserve a SL team. The vast majority of the population would probably ride on any success but still wouldn't get down and support them. I suppose we just have to accept that rugby league doesn't 'float their boat''"

Wakefield deserves a SL team and the support is there as proven in the past. Competitive team in a decent stadium and we'd have above average attendances in SL and more potential than most of SL

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Son and yours truly got ours. Just wish all the lapsed 'know alls' in the pubs and clubs get off their backsides . My window cleaner is typical example . Told him I was off to magic weekend . Reply --wouldn't waste my money nowadays '. He didn't even know we were on a winning run and were really competitive . I' m afraid it will take 2/3 years of being competitive for the cynicism to evaporate.

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I think that the fans that we have currently are generally very passionate and committed to following Trinity and if each one of us tells folk the good things that are happening, it will help increase the supporter numbers.
We all know people that used to come to games and have, for whatever reason, stopped coming.
So, tell them how good the squad is and to get themselves down to watch an odd game or two,
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Me, the boy and for the first time the mrs. Would hope the number will nudge up to nearer 2k in the new year.

I wonder if there are too many free/cheap tickets about in the community game which puts people off getting a ST?

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This is an echo chamber, in which people who are passionate enough about the club sign up to a website to discuss the intricate details of everything about it, with other (mostly) likeminded people; preaching to the choir if you will.

What we don't do very well is market the club to people with less interest in it in the first place; blaming your potential customers for not buying your amazing product is not an accepted marketing strategy - you have to convince them of how amazing it is and get them to try it out for themselves. The club could do much more in that regard.

I haven't got a ST by the way - I'll be walking up to every home game though, and selected away games; so the club will make more money from me than they would if I bought a discount ST.

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "[code][/code]Wakefield deserves a SL team and the support is there as proven in the past. Competitive team in a decent stadium and we'd have above average attendances in SL and more potential than most of SL'"


Ah! - I need to clarify I think. The people who support only when we are a good team (and that's not been very often in recent years) are the ones I mean don't deserve a SL team.
Of course every poster on here does! we are the hard core supporters.
The problem is our hard core supporters are relatively few in number.
Moan over - just buy a ticket or at least SUPPORT the club on match day.

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Quote: bren2k "
I haven't got a ST by the way - I'll be walking up to every home game though, and selected away games; so the club will make more money from me than they would if I bought a discount ST.'"


I used to take that option until that early bird Eric France offer when we were selling season tickets before we knew the result of the original £1K game.
I now presume the club prefers money up front albeit a bit less. ?

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We will not get many "new" season ticket holders or indeed walk ups until the stadia is sorted. Rugby League is marketed as a family game, and as we all know Belle Vue is just not Family friendly in the slightest. Poor View, Poor facilities, Times have changed and people want more bang for their buck so to speak, so to shell out £50.00 + for an afternoons entertainment in the summer, I'm afraid Belle Vue is way down the list on most peoples ideas. As said before, we are very good at preaching to the converted, but we offer little, and what little we offer we don't tell anyone about, the next signing we make should be a proven Media . Marketing manager with a budget to work with. I Know MC cannot work miracles, but this area is where some investment is needed.

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Quote: Dreadnaught "We will not get many "new" season ticket holders or indeed walk ups until the stadia is sorted. Rugby League is marketed as a family game, and as we all know Belle Vue is just not Family friendly in the slightest. Poor View, Poor facilities, Times have changed and people want more bang for their buck so to speak, so to shell out £50.00 + for an afternoons entertainment in the summer, I'm afraid Belle Vue is way down the list on most peoples ideas. As said before, we are very good at preaching to the converted, but we offer little, and what little we offer we don't tell anyone about, the next signing we make should be a proven Media . Marketing manager with a budget to work with. I Know MC cannot work miracles, but this area is where some investment is needed.'"


I agree, given the choice of a family day out, watching Trin at Belle Vue doesn't even make the top 50 possible places. My wife won't come as she HATES the toilets and dislikes the lack of view from many locations in the stadium. People will find it hard to get excited about coming to watch a game they might not necessarily understand in a stadium which was outdated in the 70's and hasn't improved since. I love going down because it's been a life long passion, others don't feel that way. We NEED a few good seasons and a new stadium before anyone gets excited in the wider Wakefield community

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This one is specifically aimed at Mr Carter AKA Daddycool.

It’s probably to late for this season but I have a suggestion for season tickets.

I would love to buy a season ticket but it’s simply impractical as I can’t get to all the home games nor do I really know which ones I can make - I go when I can.

On average I manage ten games a season (excluding cup matches). What I would like to suggest is a ten game season ticket. I’m not so much after a big discount it’s more a case of convenience and a way of ensuring I go. It also makes a far more feasible present than a full season ticket.

Basically it’s ten tickets for 10 non specific games - only one ticket per match can be used - price with a slight discount £195 standing. I could justify one of these and if I manage more than 10 games I’ll pay on the day as usual.

Maybe there is some reason this can’t work but i thought it at least worth a suggestion as I reckon they would sell - you could also re-introduce them hallway through the season if we start to do really well.

Thought please.

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Quote: Trinity1315 "1200? That is nothing short of pathetic!
I can't put my finger on why, but there seems to be a general apathy in Wakefield towards supporting Trinity. The city, generally does not deserve a SL team. We have a population of 76k and only 1200 sales! words fail me. MC works wanders with the income he gets. He must really love the club because I wouldn't blame him if he said 'stuff it' and walked.'"

I bet that figure is far higher nowadays as well. It was over 76k in 2001 and we've been building houses like mad in the City since then. Also that figure doesn't include places like Altofts and Normy and Ossett. I bet it's closer to 100k now.

Like others have said there a couple of things that hold that Season ticket sales generally back. The first is the decades of being poor and the relatively recent off field dramas. Realistically, even though the Club have done an awesome job of putting a team together, plus also the re-branding, it's going to take a few back to back seasons of moderate success to get more and more people interested. Then we come to the ground. I know it's something that everyone is very conscious of, but If you're not a hardcore RL fan it's a pretty grim experience, especially if you're bringing the family.

Generally my hope for next season is that we can increase crowds by as much as we increased them last year, 800 or so. If we can say average 5500 fans and have a decent season and then back it up again the year after, there's no reason why we can't get back up to the around 7000. Obviously we've got the ground issues still in the back ground and again this season, that sort of hinders stability in a way.

Personally with work and travel I don't get season tickets and come when I can get to games, which is often not known until the day of the game, unless it's Sundays.

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Quote: Dreadnaught "We will not get many "new" season ticket holders or indeed walk ups until the stadia is sorted. Rugby League is marketed as a family game, and as we all know Belle Vue is just not Family friendly in the slightest. Poor View, Poor facilities, Times have changed and people want more bang for their buck so to speak, so to shell out £50.00 + for an afternoons entertainment in the summer, I'm afraid Belle Vue is way down the list on most peoples ideas. As said before, we are very good at preaching to the converted, but we offer little, and what little we offer we don't tell anyone about, the next signing we make should be a proven Media . Marketing manager with a budget to work with. I Know MC cannot work miracles, but this area is where some investment is needed.'"


Agree with that. I even know people that used to be regulars not that long ago but are now that far removed from the game they haven't a clue how we're doing, who we've signed or anything, unless I say something. It's people like these and the ones that have never even thought of going to watch a RL game in their City we should be aiming to entice.

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What sickens me off is to walk around Wakefield, Outwood, Ossett etc and seeing people wearing Leeds Rhinos shirts and coats. Walk around Cas ( a similar distance from Leeds) and everybody, even their cats are wearing Cas gear. I'll give the Cas fans one thing; they're people who really identify with their local team. Do we still send representatives of the club out to the schools with free ticket offers, and could we get the Council to reintroduce the scheme where employees could by tickets through their salaries? Mind you, knowing Box probably not.

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Vastman.

Further to you mentioning a 10 game season ticket.

I suggested one similar on here and forwarded it to the club a while ago.

It was less than 10 what I suggested but was mainly to try to bring fans back in and introduce new ones without making the financial commitment of a full season ticket. I think I suggested 5 because that way if you got one and was happy with what you were seeing you could then get another in the same season

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Quote: vastman "This one is specifically aimed at Mr Carter AKA Daddycool.

It’s probably to late for this season but I have a suggestion for season tickets.

I would love to buy a season ticket but it’s simply impractical as I can’t get to all the home games nor do I really know which ones I can make - I go when I can.

On average I manage ten games a season (excluding cup matches). What I would like to suggest is a ten game season ticket. I’m not so much after a big discount it’s more a case of convenience and a way of ensuring I go. It also makes a far more feasible present than a full season ticket.

Basically it’s ten tickets for 10 non specific games - only one ticket per match can be used - price with a slight discount £195 standing. I could justify one of these and if I manage more than 10 games I’ll pay on the day as usual.

Maybe there is some reason this can’t work but i thought it at least worth a suggestion as I reckon they would sell - you could also re-introduce them hallway through the season if we start to do really well.

Thought please.'"


What I would like to do is try and change people's perception of season tickets. Whether you attend 1 game or 14, I would like supporters to consider £249 as the amount they contribute per year to produce a successful, well run, Super League club. Less then £5 a week?

Unfortunately, currently there are not enough people who are actually that bothered in the city of Wakefield. We have a very dedicated small hardcore of supporters and sponsors for whom, I am truly thankful. Would love to know what could be achieved if we had a hardcore as big as hull KR's announced this week. Could certainly spend the full cap!

Finally I also think the ground is a large factor in this. It's a dump and it was truly horrible and cold to work in today. 5 years since the PI and other parties continue to treat us as imbeciles. We will continue the fight to get what is morally correct. How certain people look in the mirror, I will never know.

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Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
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Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
244
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
802
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
846
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1240
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1464
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1206
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1617
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1319
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1547
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1727
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2067
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1682
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1711
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2040


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