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| Nobody is making you go Ball-in-hand.
I'll be going wherever Wakefield play their home games.
Because I support Wakefield Trinity.
Who do you support?
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| Rule out Ossett Town and Albion, they're barely fit to host Unibond First division games.
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| Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "How many people pay for their Sky subscription and say it's too much?
You phone up say you are leaving and they give you a deal to stay on board.
Because they know that some money is better than no money.
Got 6 months to sort it and the ball is in the BOI court.
Let's enjoy what's left of the season, starting with Wednesday!'"
Well said!
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| Quote: lampyboy "I have no idea how many student tickets we could have sold. I also have no idea how many stayed away because of the 3 o'clock kick offs, how many stayed away because of the no smoking or e cig ban , or how many would be put off because of the confusion over the plastic drink episode. Not everything in the garden was rosey and situations could and should have been handled better. We all want a successful club to follow and I think we are on the long journey to obtain that. It starts with S L survival and the venue side of things will probably take care of its self once the options are known.'"
Think the student ST number was a very low so as to make little difference to income in stopping doing them something around 65 I believe, although it may even have been less than that
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| Quote: PopTart "Nobody is making you go Ball-in-hand.
I'll be going wherever Wakefield play their home games.
Because I support Wakefield Trinity.
Who do you support?'"
I agree I'd go to Leeds to support Trinity but it'd be good if the only professional sports club in Wakefield still played its home games within the Wakefield District rather than moving to the City of Leeds which seems to have all the resources.
Is it preferable to a ground share with Castleford?
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| Quote: asmadasa "I agree I'd go to Leeds to support Trinity but it'd be good if the only professional sports club in Wakefield still played its home games within the Wakefield District rather than moving to the City of Leeds which seems to have all the resources.
Is it preferable to a ground share with Castleford?
No, not ever.
A ground share darn lane or Glasshoughton would be a definite NO, I'd rather watch Dewsbury or Fev.
If we move to Hunslet, or wherever, unless we can maintain or preferably build, our support will continue to dwindle.
The club that we all support is WAKEFIELD Trinity, not LEEDS Trinity and for the club to move away from the district, no
matter what the reasons may be, will be an utter disaster, unless there was ever to be some progress at NM.
Of course, as supporters, we don't know the full details but, this doesn't look good for our club.
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| Quote: chissitt "Rotherham Titans are contracted to play at Oakwell next season 2016.'"
That was only if they won promotion...which they didn't
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| This is just me but I love going to Belle Vue, moving out of town to play somewhere else would make me pick and chose the games I went to...shallow I know but I bet I am not alone.
I imagine the old system with the student ST were abused (I know my 50 year old brother did it 15 years ago) so we might not have had loads of beardy students but we would have had more fans.
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| Quote: ball-in-hand ". I am afraid that MC will not go down in history as the man who signed Kevin Locke but the man who signed the death sentence of a once great club because whatever ground he might have lined up for next season very few of this year's 2000 season ticket holders willbe buying one to travel to another town every other week whatever league we are in'"
Perhaps you'd like MC to go down in history as just another Chairman who blindly let the club go bust again! FFS!
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Perhaps you'd like MC to go down in history as just another Chairman who blindly let the club go bust again! FFS!'"
NOBODY wants the club to go bust again (apart from a few bitter Cas fans) but moving to another ground is a risk and moving outside the town is a massive risk.
As we have seen this season, Wakefield fans are extremely fickle and when we are not winning, any excuse is enough to keep some fans away.
Already, many folk have said that they may not renew S/T's next season and a move to Hunslet or Barnsley will have a further effect on sales of tickets.
IF this is anything other that a short term plan (until Newmarket gets sorted), I think we are stuffed.
Once the club is outside of town our identity will erode further.
I know that we have been told that the rent at BV was unsustainable but, there has never been a hint of this and surely something so important should be put to the fans before embarking on such a massive gamble ?
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| So where has the Hunslet rumour come from, Barnsley, Dewsbury, Fev, even Batley all make more sense than Hunslet.
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| Belle Vue is a dump and I will be glad to get out of it, so I will watch and support them wherever they go.
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| Am I missing something here?
As far as I can tell their are two very separate issues being discussed here.
First is Newmarket or compensation owed if it doesn’t happen. This is the preserve of the Trust, Yorkcourt, WMDC and WTWC RLFC and is well documented.
Second is the much newer issue on here is of the cost of staying at BV and the possibility of moving elsewhere if required. This is a purely business issue for the club and supporters only and has no effect on NM.
Now I’m not kidding myself, they are connected in a fashion - however they are also clearly separate issues and run separately from each other.
As far as I can tell and people will need to read between the lines on this one the club wants a reduced rent to stop at BV - without it they can’t afford to move the club on commercially until or if NM comes on line. This in turn would do Boxes job for him and kill the club before NM is ever built.
I suspect the hope is that the BOI will back down and offer a deal which would ultimately suit us and allow us to stay short term or develop long term. Either way the bottom line is cost and sad and risky leaving BV will be it is the only alternative.
One further point for TRB or IA.
I know the latest amount Yorkcourt are offering to get rid of us and it’s a fair pot of cash other than the strings attached.
Would it not be possible to take that cash and go in with Dewsbury and upgrade their ground which is well placed and ripe for development - or - is this not possible because it’s in Kirklees and the Sports Trust can only operate in WMDC and ditto YC is only obliged to deal with the Trust - if that makes sense?
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Quote: wrencat1873 "Perhaps you'd like MC to go down in history as just another Chairman who blindly let the club go bust again! FFS!'"
NOBODY wants the club to go bust again (apart from a few bitter Cas fans) but moving to another ground is a risk and moving outside the town is a massive risk.
As we have seen this season, Wakefield fans are extremely fickle and when we are not winning, any excuse is enough to keep some fans away.
Already, many folk have said that they may not renew S/T's next season and a move to Hunslet or Barnsley will have a further effect on sales of tickets.
IF this is anything other that a short term plan (until Newmarket gets sorted), I think we are stuffed.
Once the club is outside of town our identity will erode further.
I know that we have been told that the rent at BV was unsustainable but, there has never been a hint of this and surely something so important should be put to the fans before embarking on such a massive gamble ?'"
Think MC and CB had to get the club turned around first by clearing outstanding debts.
When they took over it looks like there was still 2 years left on the BV lease, so not a lot they could do about that.
I'm sure it was a big thorn sticking in the clubs side and rather than moan about it, they have had time to come up with several contingency plans as IA has pointed out.
The hardest decision are always the most unpopular, like stripping the team down but if it means there will still be a club, isn't that what people want?
I feel like we have bottomed out this season but with BS in charge, if we get through this season, the future looks better than it has for ages.
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| Quote: vastman "Would it not be possible to take that cash and go in with Dewsbury and upgrade their ground which is well placed and ripe for development - or - is this not possible because it’s in Kirklees and the Sports Trust can only operate in WMDC and ditto YC is only obliged to deal with the Trust - if that makes sense?'"
There's a sizeable housing development going up next to the Dewsbury ground now - that might curtail any plan that involved expanding its current footprint.
Not a bad idea though!
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