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| Hicks was awful and came up with some shocking calls.
He seemed to not want to make any calls until he got "a word" in his ear piece.
Absolutely awful !
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| Yet a 9-5 penalty count for Trinity
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| Quote: Early Bath "Yet a 9-5 penalty count for Trinity'"
Talking about what should have been penalties slacko
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| Quote: vastman "Get over yourself, we got some tough calls and over all Salford got away with way more than us.
He was a factor in todays loss - but to blame him alone would be foolish. However it's equally as foolish to deny it, which is a speciality of yours.
Can I ask why you actually bother with Trinity? Your idea of supporting the team and club seems a million miles from everyone else - I think you're loving this season I really do.'"
I'm not denying anything, Hicks got things wrong for us, but also Salford. I'm more bothered about our own performances rather than blaming the referees for our blunders (although it is concerning we've had the "junior" refs for most of the season).
Why I bother with Trinity? So I offer opinions different to yours and because of that I shouldn't bother.
As for loving this season you couldn't be more wrong - I can't wait for the end so we can get rid of the deadwood and start again.
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "I thought this was going to be another ref bashing thread, but by the sound of it even the new coach wasn’t too impressed.
So either Hicks didn’t get a grip or Mr Smith has jumped on the whinging bandwagon.'" far from jumping on the band wagon, if its not bad enough trying to repair a poor knit side we have to put up with days like that from an official, its no wonder the crowds are leaving and not coming back, what's the point in watching if we know we have no chance in the beginning
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| Paterson got away with so much it was untrue. Sly niggly hits, and so much lying on and holding down. Can't put all the blame on Hicks though, our downfall was a lack of smart play in the first half. If we'd played the 1st half like we layed the 2nd we would have won that game.
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| Never known a crowd whinge at a referee as much in my life. It was becoming embarrassing at times, particularly as Hicks was consistent (whether good or bad) for both teams. There were plenty of poor calls which went against Salford too, the worst one was the blatant two-man ball strip on Theo Fages only for Hicks to give it a knock on. Wakefield were also off-side plenty and were rightly penalised. Also, how many times did Godinet dummy the play of the ball in order to milk a penalty for off-side?
You cant blame the referee for yesterdays result.
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| No you were clearly offside most of the time.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Never known a crowd whinge at a referee as much in my life. It was becoming embarrassing at times, particularly as Hicks was consistent (whether good or bad) for both teams. There were plenty of poor calls which went against Salford too, the worst one was the blatant two-man ball strip on Theo Fages only for Hicks to give it a knock on. Wakefield were also off-side plenty and were rightly penalised. Also, how many times did Godinet dummy the play of the ball in order to milk a penalty for off-side?
You cant blame the referee for yesterdays result.'"
I think you will find we have never been offside ever and are honest as the day is long.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Never known a crowd whinge at a referee as much in my life. It was becoming embarrassing at times, particularly as Hicks was consistent (whether good or bad) for both teams. There were plenty of poor calls which went against Salford too, the worst one was the blatant two-man ball strip on Theo Fages only for Hicks to give it a knock on. Wakefield were also off-side plenty and were rightly penalised. Also, how many times did Godinet dummy the play of the ball in order to milk a penalty for off-side?
You cant blame the referee for yesterdays result.'"
Interesting viewpoint.
What about Godinet being pulled for offside from his own kick or Hicks ignoring 3 or 4 high shots even when he was looking directly at the play.
But, the worst call was Wakefield being pulled back for a scrum (with Wakefield feed) when Godinet had gone clear with support.
Of course Wakefield lost the game because they weren't smart enough in possession.
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| Referee's have been consistently bad this year ,some of the calls are baffling to say the least. One of the issues though is the perceptions from the crowd , say in football for example , most of the decisions from the refs are handball and fouls which are usually agreed with by about 80-90% of the crowd . With rugby though there are that many types of penalty that they are pretty much all a judgement call , eg ,hands in the play the ball , not letting the player up which depending on which team you support you'll either agree or disagree. As a Salford fan , we've been on the wrong end of plenty of calls , both live and after matches but from my view Hicks was just poor , a lot of penalties given to both sides which were no worse than previous unpenalised instances which didn't help the game to flow along with the weather but with my red glasses on I saw a few high shots on my side of the pitch on Fages and Patterson to name 2 which went unpunished yet the touch judge couldn't get on quick enough on the seated side of the pitch even though none of the players , crowd or Hicks saw anything , like I said it's all about perception
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| Hicks was poor because he simply isn't up to it. Having said that, our discipline is poor and we help the opposition just about every match, regularly 'piggy-backing' them up the field.
We play dumb and the sooner we get someone on the pitch who takes charge of his players in the way a captain should then the better. I like Kirmond but I sometimes think he should be more involved with the players on the park - encouraging discipline.
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| Quote: Andyjc7 " As a Salford fan , we've been on the wrong end of plenty of calls, but from my view Hicks was just poor , a lot of penalties given to both sides which were no worse than previous unpenalised instances which didn't help the game to flow along with the weather but with my red glasses on I saw a few high shots on my side of the pitch on Fages and Patterson to name 2 which went unpunished yet the touch judge couldn't get on quick enough on the seated side of the pitch even though none of the players , crowd or Hicks saw anything'"
If as you say you've been on the wrong end of plenty of calls, then surely you must sympathise with us for the shabby display by the referee towards us yesterday, your not unique in being the only club treated badly by referees, we'd have you in tears if we recalled all the poor decisions gone against us, we lost the game yesterday because we were not quite good and smart enough, ably assisted by a very inconsistant referee.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Never known a crowd whinge at a referee as much in my life. It was becoming embarrassing at times, particularly as Hicks was consistent (whether good or bad) for both teams. There were plenty of poor calls which went against Salford too, the worst one was the blatant two-man ball strip on Theo Fages only for Hicks to give it a knock on. Wakefield were also off-side plenty and were rightly penalised. Also, how many times did Godinet dummy the play of the ball in order to milk a penalty for off-side?
You cant blame the referee for yesterdays result.'"
Home crowd in booing the ref shocker.
I take it you haven't been to Leeds and heard the South stand before?
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| Quote: Wildthing "Home crowd in booing the ref shocker.
I take it you haven't been to Leeds and heard the South stand before?'"
I wonder if the Salford fans would have accepted defeat with such good grace if the boot had been on the other foot and Hicks had favoured us as much instead of them, I somehow doubt it.
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