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Quote: Tigerade "Spot on from Vasty. An additional point I would add is to review the non-smoking policy at Belle Vue. I cannot understand why a smoking area cannot be provided.'"
do you have one at cas

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I still think that some so called fans are looking for the least possible excuse not to turn up,might just be my imagination,but that's what I feel.this is only my view and I know I'll get the usual slaver from posters,but I've not had any reasons to feel that MC and Co have any anti fan agenda.If they don't turn up then that's their prerogative,for what ever reason.It's sad really for Wakefield when they can watch Trin and sulk at the same time icon_thumb.gif

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Agree with most of your post vast man especially re the fans. I put something on Facebook regarding big al and his family in a string of posts in which the wildcats contributed. Sadly no reply from them was made. They don't seem to realise the ill feeling this has created with some fans. Until it all kicked off I wasn't even aware of this policy and I attend all home games apart from when on holiday, which I was at this time. It seems bonkers to me to alienate hardcore fans. Having said that I wouldn't have reacted the same way as al and his family butveCh to their own

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Quote: snowie "do you have one at cas'"


You can have a cig at Cas in the open end (railway) or the left hand terrace across from the Wheldon Road end, or behind the main stand. I'm a non-smoker personally but I know some fans won't go to away games if they cannot smoke.

Fev recently tried to stop smoking at Post Office Road - it backfired on them and they have gone back to the previous policy.

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Quote: snowie "and where better to advertise than in your local cinema before the screenings

Dooh, that was going to be one of my points. As Mr Carter said the old hoardings are outdated in the era of Facebook etc but very localised cinema advertising is hitting the right audience who obviously have cash to spare. I don't know whether it can still be done locally or at what cost but even just a pre season run maybe a possibility. Maybe in conjunction with a sponsor?

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Quote: Big lads mate "I still think that some so called fans are looking for the least possible excuse not to turn up,might just be my imagination,but that's what I feel.this is only my view and I know I'll get the usual slaver from posters,but I've not had any reasons to feel that MC and Co have any anti fan agenda.If they don't turn up then that's their prerogative,for what ever reason.It's sad really for Wakefield when they can watch Trin and sulk at the same time
No you're right and that's the whole point - sad as it is it takes very little to put some people off and there isn't much anybody can do about that. All clubs have them and maybe for historical reasons we have more than most. However when fans like Big Al are staying home that's a whole new issue and needs addressing urgently.

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Quote: Tigerade "Spot on from Vasty. An additional point I would add is to review the non-smoking policy at Belle Vue. I cannot understand why a smoking area cannot be provided.'"


Agreed, but there seems no give and take it's all blanket policies.

As a smoker I accept nobody want smoke in their face on the terraces that's just rude - but seriously what harm is it doing anyone but the fully aware smoker tucked away in some corner - it is plain dictatorial nonsense and has not a legal thing.

Also according to our head H&R guy and complete liar if what you're saying is correct it's a SL regulation but not one I can find anywhere though who knows as we no longer live in a a free country. eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: vastman "No you're right and that's the whole point - sad as it is it takes very little to put some people off and there isn't much anybody can do about that. All clubs have them and maybe for historical reasons we have more than most. However when fans like Big Al are staying home that's a whole new issue and needs addressing urgently.'"
Al's a very strong minded bloke and I know this will be hurting him, the longer this goes the easier he'll find it

miss standing with him, real gent

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Quote: Tigerade "You can have a cig at Cas in the open end (railway) or the left hand terrace across from the Wheldon Road end, or behind the main stand. I'm a non-smoker personally but I know some fans won't go to away games if they cannot smoke.

Fev recently tried to stop smoking at Post Office Road - it backfired on them and they have gone back to the previous policy.'"
this seriously needs addressing, I can understand on concreted areas but do we need another Bradford disaster to get this right

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Very good post Vasty, I agree with everything you've said.

The point about Al is a really valid one, we can't have it both ways, we're a small knit community club that has a superb family atmosphere and diehard fans who'll always back the club. The moment you start eroding that cliff face you're in danger of the whole house falling into oblivion.

I know there has to be regulations but this has gone too far, from the outside looking in it seems a steward has misinterpreted the instructions and over enforced the rules. Unfortunately he's done so with a high profile, dedicated, respected lifetime fan who has a history of fund raising for both charity and club causes.

The club it seems have done what they think is right by backing the steward but oh have they got this one wrong. As the incident blew up out of all proportion, Al may well have said things out of indignation as he stood his ground but please let common sense prevail here and someone from the club be tasked with resolving the issue.

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Quote: The Avenger "Very good post Vasty, I agree with everything you've said.

The point about Al is a really valid one, we can't have it both ways, we're a small knit community club that has a superb family atmosphere and diehard fans who'll always back the club. The moment you start eroding that cliff face you're in danger of the whole house falling into oblivion.

I know there has to be regulations but this has gone too far, from the outside looking in it seems a steward has misinterpreted the instructions and over enforced the rules. Unfortunately he's done so with a high profile, dedicated, respected lifetime fan who has a history of fund raising for both charity and club causes.

The club it seems have done what they think is right by backing the steward but oh have they got this one wrong. As the incident blew up out of all proportion, Al may well have said things out of indignation as he stood his ground but please let common sense prevail here and someone from the club be tasked with resolving the issue.'"

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If I were a wakefield fan I'd rather stay at BV and develop it.its one of the best playing surfaces in the sport and the stadium is not far out of town,I always think these stadiums built on the edge of towns have no match day feel,,you can have a few nice ales in town then walk up same at cas and same at our place and it's something I think is important.
Also think you guys have got a real level headed good guy in mr carter.

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Quote: Fev 1979 "If I were a wakefield fan I'd rather stay at BV and develop it.its one of the best playing surfaces in the sport and the stadium is not far out of town,I always think these stadiums built on the edge of towns have no match day feel,,you can have a few nice ales in town then walk up same at cas and same at our place and it's something I think is important.
Also think you guys have got a real level headed good guy in mr carter.'"


Agreed, and I've said before, if Wigan, Huddersfield, Sts or anybody who's left their spiritual home had the chance to go back and totally redevelop that ground rather than move to another location I'm sure they'd all take it.

If we erect modern stands with all the facilities and equal Hospitalty opportunities that a new stadium would offer then I for one would be extremely happy. The ghosts and spirits of countless players past resides in this turf and there's something untangable, almost unidentifiable that we'd have to sacrifice if we moved.

I'm all for a modern and almost total redevelopment of the stands but to retain the playing surface that has been graced by legends for almost a century and a half would help to inspire future young players to don their Trinity shirts and tread in the footsteps of rugby Gods like Neil Fox and Jonty Parkin.

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Quote: vastman "No you're right and that's the whole point - sad as it is it takes very little to put some people off and there isn't much anybody can do about that. All clubs have them and maybe for historical reasons we have more than most. However when fans like Big Al are staying home that's a whole new issue and needs addressing urgently.'"


For every Big Al protest, there's hundreds of other fans that can be persuaded to get on board. Man up and move on, everyone can't be happy all of the time. The futures bright, the futures Red, White and Blue.

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Warehouse 23 have been promoting some of the Wakefield games - maybe they could provide a midweek night at a reasonable rate for the shirt presentation ?

As for the fans, I believe Mr Carter is not bothered about losing a few in his target to make the club self sufficient and if this includes clamping down on people bringing in food and drink from outside and forcing them to buy inside then that is his way of doing it - we can accept it or we can walk away. He has let me down with his season ticket deals for this season and I am thinking of walking away after this season as I don't agree with what he is doing - however, my love of the club will probably overtake my dislike of his policies on this occasion but I'll see what the rest of the season brings. We will all choose to do what we really want to do when it comes down to it.

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