Are you including Jinjer in that ? I always thought he was anti Cas but now I have absolute proof.

I'm including anyone who tries to defend, trivialise or diminish what Sinfield did tonight

Not much of a head butt in my opinion.

It was a push, grow up, you haven't got a clue about what I know, you don't know me, if that happened in a city centre you'd laugh at the guy who did it and walk away!

I'm absolutely anti Cas in a sporting sort of way, but if you read what I posted I said of course he should be sent off, anti Cas sentiments there, don't think so.

I don't see it so bad. It wasn't an aggressive headbut. He aggressively but his head in Dorn's face.
Not the same at all.
It's an A-B level at best.

I can imagine not in the popular bracket but I like Sinfield as a person and player. Some over rate him and lots under rate what he brings to a team. He's a pain in the sunshine hole when he refs the game but then I have always wished for Wakefield captains to be stronger in this bracket. I can't think of an area he is weak in from captaincy, kicking, tackling, passing, organising etc etc... Hold on discipline haha but he's usually good with that!

That said his standards grossly dropped tonight and it was the correct decision to send him off. Thank god it wasn't the 'On Report' option and Thaler had some bottle to make the correct decision. He will get a ban and if its in the category mentioned will be 4 games. I think he will be kicking himself because he let his team mates down and he knows it! There was no need to even get involved with Dorn or talk to him to get wound up! At such an important stage in the game it was suicidal from Sinfield and he will hope a point doesn't make a difference with the league leaders shield!!

You might !! But I'm sure your bothers would have em !!

Never mentioned you but you obviously thought the cap fits and felt the need to defend yourself (such that it was) however you're wrong, it was a head but.

To continue your analogy, if a police officer saw you do what Sinfield did you'd get arrested.

Don't think Jinjer or anybody else are defending him, what he did was inexcusable, its something you would expect from someone like that head the ball Hock not from a squeaky clean high profile player like him but then again Hock would have done it properly, a definite sending off and worthy of a 2 match ban there was more frustration than intent imo, as far as I'm concerned as usual it was blown out of proportion by that muppet Hemmings and as Phil Clarke said don't let it overtake what was a very entertaining game of rugby. BTW here's a tip mate don't get in the way of Jinjer when they shout last orders at the bar or you will see the real difference

Head pushing is the new punching, since punching became an automatic sending off.

Sinfield looked totally gone though - he'd lost the plot and massively over-reacted to a bit of shouting from Dorn; sending off was the right decision and provided the disciplinary don't bottle it, he should cool his heels for a few games.

The outrage from some quarters is probably more to do with the player than the act, largely because he is SL's poster boy and the behaviour was so out of character.

Hardly in the same league as a Cliff Watson 'Liverpool Kiss' but nevertheless I expect nothing less than a sine die ban !! and the Pope to discontinue the Beatification process.

Forgot to mention - what a fantastic game! Full credit to both teams - best televised game of the season so far, by quite some margin.

Must be great to be a Cas fan this season!

was pretty shocked when I saw what he did (given it was Sinfield) but it was a bit of a storm in a teacup, wouldn't expect a long ban for it - probably 2-3 games tops.

There has been some massive overreaction to this in some parts

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